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Old 08-05-2016, 11:14 PM
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4 point harnesses are illegal for seat belts (which has got to be one of the stupidest thing I've ever heard)*, so I went with 3 point DOT approved belts. I hate them, so I'm going to put in 4 point and if I have trouble I'll go argue it.

*DOT/cops claim that everyone knows how to use a button to get out; but not everyone knows how to get out of a harness.... as I said, stupid.
Some people put in both, and use the 4 point. The lap belt or 3 point is just an "extra."

Nice work. Do you have a rough estimate of what you spent (not including labor and any tools) ?
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Old 08-06-2016, 04:07 AM
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less then 20k more then 10k.... probably just less then 15k. I never add it up though I do have all the receipts.
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Old 08-07-2016, 12:57 PM
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I was watching some Viper ACR videos and they said it came with a 5 point, wth?? Googled it and there are lots of images like this:

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So it is not just racers, oem is doing it too.

Got a hell of a 4x4 for 15k$ and lots of work.

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Old 08-07-2016, 02:55 PM
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notice it still has the 'normal' seat belt? there's no law against extra seat belts - but what's funny from that picture is most seat belt laws say "you shall use all devices available to you" meaning that to avoid a ticket, you'd have to use the race harness AND the lap belt....
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Old 08-07-2016, 11:12 PM
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notice it still has the 'normal' seat belt? there's no law against extra seat belts - but what's funny from that picture is most seat belt laws say "you shall use all devices available to you" meaning that to avoid a ticket, you'd have to use the race harness AND the lap belt....
Yes, that was my point, racers do that, and seeing a factory car like that makes it somewhat valid. Just make sure you can get the 3 point on quickly! Or, as you mention wear both.
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Old 08-08-2016, 03:54 AM
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So today was the day
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Steve lead the way
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if you look closely, I'm missing a bolt on the skid plate
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pretty flowers, no?
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this was fun
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as was this
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this might be were this major damage happened
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it was a blast everyone made it home safely, and there is a list of fixits (next post)
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Old 08-08-2016, 04:17 AM
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So I drove 200 miles today and got 8 mpg, of course, that may change a bit once I do one of the fixits. So here's the list:
I publish this so the trolls can carry on their trolling, but more importantly for the folks who garage build and who the trolls and tv shows bring down. It's an honest list and meant to help others see that it's just part of the build process. Don't anyone get the thought that I didn't have a blast today - I did, this build was totally worth it.

Steering set screw - there are two, I ground one down...
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Steering stop nut, I can get more turning radius by turning it in a bit
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Not yet fixed
fuel smell - we found the reason - the top of the tank is leaking (which might explain some of the poor mpg - beside the 38.5 bias ply tires, 4.56 gears and brick aero)
Fuel level sender (again) 3/8 is empty.... need to solve that - but since I've got to take the seat out again... no biggie
fuel pump is annoying - I may fix this in my typical manner of build a new tank and put the pump in tank.... because, the easy way is for smart folks and Pirate knows, I'm not smart.
driver's side exhaust leak - annoying but needs fixed (I think I missed a hole header - not a gasket)
reset the driveshaft so it is straight. This one a pro got me - I set the shaft as Tom Woods suggested, he said I needed a degree in it to reduce vibration... uh, dumbme... I'll put it back (easy)
Water, cup holders .... yeah, get over it, shifting and wheeling makes carrying your coffee between your legs a perilous adventure.. and no, I didn't bring water or food today... I need to make food and water permanent in the vehicle so I don't do this again (thank you Regis for bring food)

this is a big one, cooler for the power steering pump. driving normally, it works fine, but it was not happy turning the spartan locker front. I'd like to add a steering ram (and will) but that's later - for now I may simply add a stabilizer so that I don't have death at speed-bump speed wobble until I get the funds.

a caliper is loose and rattling
seat belts are junk
stupid dana 300s, I didn't put the spring in and am regretting it. 4 wd pops out to 2 wd, I should have put the spring in. This I won't fix until much later, but it's an issue. I need to redo the shift levers because they are also problematic - at one point I had front-only drive which, as far as I know, is utterly impossible.... leave it to me to find a way to make that happen (not twice though)

4 hi/N/4 low... I don't like the levers, I may (gasp) put a stepper motor on it so that it mechanically holds it in gear..... it also doesn't like to go easily between the gears.

clutch, yeah again, as the day progressed so did the level of force required to use the clutch. I think I'll add more heim joints to the system...

skid plate rattle - this could be as simple as a rock on the skid plate.... but there it is.

Add to this the stuff that happened before (oil pump, almost burned to the ground, and the various getting stuff working senders..) and you'll have a complete idea of what it has taken to make it road worthy.

With all of that said, I was blowing along at 80 mph on a rutty freeway and it felt stable. It does tend to corner steer (when you turn a corner the rear helps in the turning process as the body leans - which can be a bit disconcerting to get used to).... that said, once the fuel smell is fixed - I'll drive it anywhere...
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Old 08-08-2016, 12:03 PM
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I assume the trolls are on the "Pirate" forum you refer to. I don't see it here. What the heck are they complaining about?
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Old 08-08-2016, 04:59 PM
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oh everything from wheelbase, to use of axles, to (my favorite) whether or not it'd fall over backwards upon acceleration.... certainly not here
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......to (my favorite) whether or not it'd fall over backwards upon acceleration....
Well I was going to bring that up but then I saw the big fat tire you have mounted on the back to bounce you back upright
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