Metal shavings on magnetic oil drain plug

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I noticed what looks like metal shavings on my magnetic oil drain plug. It looks like grinding dust and mixed with the old oil it looks like anti seize compound.... 1800 miles on the engine and I've changed the oil about 5 times already.
Is this normal or should I be concerned ??


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:goodnight: FUCK,

Camshaft?? flat tappet....??

if so, what brand??

been many of them all over the joints for some time now....Comp cams seems to be the worst as I recall...makes me wonder who's billets....

:bonkers::rain:

I"d cut the filter apart too, see what....

how was the Oil pressure??
 
That's a lot of shavings, especially on the 5th oil change. Something's not right. Check your distr. gear. What kind of cam do you have in there?
 
It's a Comp roller cam, 230-236 dur, .510/.520" lift.... , there's no valvetrain noise whatsoever.... had the dizzy out not too long ago when I swapped the intake. Did not notice anything abnormal.
 
If it runs fine, run it till it croaks. Why not have some fun before it dies?
 
big2bird said:
If it runs fine, run it till it croaks. Why not have some fun before it dies?
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Because he luck runs like mine, it would leave me stranded in the middle of the desert.....about 1000 miles from BFE....

:shocking::hissyfit:
 
:crap: I dunno, only seen one thing similar, back in the '70, a friend with a '63 Split, he built a SB for it, and had something in the casting at fault, I dunno what the symptoms far as magnetic shit in the pan/plug, but the block was defective.....

I would pull the pan and chain cover at this point, pull some caps and see who's home....:search::gurney:

Edit, Karsten, is that a FACTORY roller design or aftermarket toggle types?? if it's the toggle types...I bet that's the issue...it's been posted a few times as being troubles like that....
 
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Wow, that's a lot of metal flakes for this few miles.
I wouldn't keep on driving without finding the cause as this is not normal, no way.

And like written already, the filter is probably filled as well.

Should be possible to find the cause with this amount .

And surely not a crank bearing.

Probably the camshaft, even without valve noise because the hydraulic lifters do compensate a bit for wear.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Oh, you would probably drive happily an other few K miles if you had not installed this stupid magnet.:pprrtt:

I have one as well as I do not cut open the filters every time after a oil change to check.

Rgds. Günther
 
Hard to tell from your pics, but if it looks and feels like fuzz or like paste then that is normal, not real shavings. You will get this on the magnet forever.

Years ago the old VW bugs used a screen and magnetic plug instead of a filter. Japanese motorcyles almost all used magnets, since the late 60's.

I have used them since the early 70's, but they were probably not as strong as the newer neodymium magnets.

Think of it as a good thing, less crap being recirculated. Remember sbc filtration is no where near 100%, so this helps a lot.
 
bobs77vet said:
that looks like it could be the wear from the top of valve pushrods to me....did you use new pushrods?
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I used new pushrods but used rockers... hmmmm.... this one is relatively easy to check... easier than pulling the oil pan

010752 said:
Hard to tell from your pics, but if it looks and feels like fuzz or like paste then that is normal, not real shavings. You will get this on the magnet forever.
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Yes, it and looks and feels like fuzz .. almost like dried anti seize
 
MYBAD79 said:
bobs77vet said:
that looks like it could be the wear from the top of valve pushrods to me....did you use new pushrods?
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I used new pushrods but used rockers... hmmmm.... this one is relatively easy to check... easier than pulling the oil pan

010752 said:
Hard to tell from your pics, but if it looks and feels like fuzz or like paste then that is normal, not real shavings. You will get this on the magnet forever.
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Yes, it and looks and feels like fuzz .. almost like dried anti seize
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So it looks like wet 2000 grit sandpaper??? and no metallic pieces you can see that are any larger??

rings wearing into the walls???

:bonkers::oh:
 
mrvette said:
So it looks like wet 2000 grit sandpaper??? and no metallic pieces you can see that are any larger??

rings wearing into the walls???

:bonkers::oh:
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yup, like 1500-2000 grit sandpaper... more like dust.... might be material from the bores, dunno...

I have never used a magnetic oil plug but this one came with the pan that I bought so I used it. Can't hurt, right ???

I am beginning to wonder if this is in fact absolutely normal and just not noticeable when using a standard (non magnetic) drain plug.

Looking at this dust I am wondering if I should plug the bypass and change the filter more often... it might get plugged with this stuff...

I still have the old filter, I'll cut it open and inspect it tomorrow.... I think I want to put the internals in a container with gas or diesel and put a few magnets in the container to attract any magnetic particles... time for a science project :bonkers:
 
I have never owned any vehicle with a magnetic engine drain plug....

seen more than a few auto tranny pans with magnets on bottom, always full of crap sticking to them....but then again it's steel rings with clutches, and thrust bearings...so expect to see that...sorta like the black sludge in the pan bottom only more of it, and thicker, and of course metallic....

hopefully TT is right, and you got no issues....:harhar::beer::beer:
 
Now that you mention it: I dropped the pan and changed the filter on my Camaro auto trans at 110000 miles. The magnet had like a pound of stuff sticking to it... nasty....
 
Did you clean and blow out your new pushrods , I've seen some nasty stuff come out of them ?
 
DWncchs said:
Did you clean and blow out your new pushrods , I've seen some nasty stuff come out of them ?
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I don't even remember to be honest. It's been almost three years.... I bought ARP hardened 1pc super kryptonite pushrods for like $100 a set.. ;) .. back when I first started the new engine I primed it and I had oil flow to all rockers, I would think this would have flushed crud out of the rods.
I have changed the oil like 4 or 5 times since Jan 2007 (although I only put less than 2000 miles on the engine since then) - if it was stuff trapped somewhere it should have stopped after the first two oil changes....
 
You know, you might think about finding a place that would do an oil analysis for you. I don't know of any off hand, but it's a common practice in the aviation world and with heavy equipment too. A quick search shows a bunch of options this is one: http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ They get $22.50 for a standard test. Cheap insurance for piece of mind if you ask me....
 
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