Vintage Exotics L88 Headlight Guide

stinger12

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I've been promising you guys a write up on the L88 headlights from Vintage Exotics.

I contacted James Cantrell about a year ago regarding my project, and he has been a great help installing these headlights. James, thanks for all of the help - I have a lot of respect for the work you have put into your product, and without a doubt I will be using you in the future.

Jim purchased the rights to the headlight lense molds a while back. He has invested over $10 000 putting these into production, along with the aluminum buckets. They are exceptional.

The first thing I have to mention is how well these came boxed up. Packed with care and by a professional to say the least. Yeah, I know...who cares...get on with the good stuff...I care. It shows effort by the seller, and care for the product they are selling me. These could not have been packaged more professionally, and I applaud them for that.

What you receive in the kit:
-2 headlight buckets
-2 headlight lenses
-2 headlight retainer moldings
-dzus fasteners
-aircraft grade aluminum rivets
-machined backing plates for use with original headlights

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And obviously the lenses which you will see in upcoming pictures. In the pictures above, you'll notice the individual backing plates which are an improvement over previous setups. It looks cleaner, and it is a lot easier to install original style bulbs using these improvements. Everything is CNC punched, and the buckets are hand tig welded.

The setup above accomodates the original bulbs from your stock headlight buckets. If you are looking for an improvement in lighting however, there is a second option. I talked to Jim about improvements in lighting, and he suggested I purchase Hella 90mm halogen projectors if I wanted more of an intense beam. They are adjusted from the backside using a socket on the adjusters. He currently uses them on one of his Porsche's, and swears by them for the price and the quality of light. The best deal on the net is through Amazon. Make sure you order both the high and low beams.

The holes on the backing plates will need to be opened up and three holes drilled to accomodate the adjusters which come with the projectors. Since I am all about things being symettrical, I did this once the buckets were physically mounted in the openings. I stood back and eyeballed where each bulb should be mounted, then marked the circles on the backing plates.

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For those of you with aftermarket front ends, or surrounds which have been replaced. These buckets were modelled after original front ends. As you can see, my entire car has been modified, including me originally having to remove the header bar out of the car, cutting it in half, welding it back up, and pushing the surround down to match the point of the hood during fitment. This changed the contour of the glass on everthing in front of the header bar so I needed to carefully trim away material from the buckets edge to make them fit snug. Almost all of you shouldn't have this problem, but if you do, look towards it being a case in which your front end has had major work done to it, because chances are that is why it doesn't fit without trimming.

Another thing to consider is the hole openings on aftermarket front ends. I can tell you right now that the holes on my front end were way too wide for the bucket, which was a case of the original manufacturer of my front end cutting the holes too large. However, the first thing to do when installing these buckets is to get it in place, secured in its final position. Make sure everything is symetrical when you stand back and look at it. Its takes a little more time, but the result in the end is worth it in my opinion.

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Once you get the buckets in their final positions, next is to square up your headlight openings. If your oppenings are too wide for the bucket, you will need to do some glass work and close up the openings so they cover up the edges of the buckets. Once that is complete, make sure to square up the sides of the openings using a block. Radius each corner so they are symmetrical to each other...it takes time, but its worth it in the end.

The lenses have a lot of material on them which allows you to place them exactly where you want them. Install them and trim them to your taste...I purposely squared the lenses to the headlight openings, as I thought it looked better. The front of the lense is held down with the supplied aluminum plates (which are cnc punched). They are held down with rivets. The rear corners of the lenses are held down with dzus fasteners, which I have yet to install.

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I'm extremely impressed with the fit and quality of these...they are incredible.
 
wow awesome, 90mm hellas in fabricated aluminum buckets, you and that jim fella really have an original idea there :suspicious:

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designed and built by jim...err marck, 5 years ago! Copied down to placing the high beam on the outside and lo beam inside (identified by black bs brown colored housing) but naaah... doesn't look anything alike. Looks like you guys forgot the little piece of wire mesh to keep trash out
 
wow awesome, 90mm hellas in fabricated aluminum buckets, you and that jim fella really have an original idea there :suspicious:

24c488d370e055.jpg

designed and built by jim...err marck, 5 years ago! Copied down to placing the high beam on the outside and lo beam inside (identified by black bs brown colored housing) but naaah... doesn't look anything alike. Looks like you guys forgot the little piece of wire mesh to keep trash out

Yeah, I know you installed them first. Your's also look great...nice job Marck.
 
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wow awesome, 90mm hellas in fabricated aluminum buckets, you and that jim fella really have an original idea there :suspicious:

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designed and built by jim...err marck, 5 years ago! Copied down to placing the high beam on the outside and lo beam inside (identified by black bs brown colored housing) but naaah... doesn't look anything alike. Looks like you guys forgot the little piece of wire mesh to keep trash out

Yeah, I know you installed them first. Your's also look great...nice job Marck.

POINT BEING that MARCK'S design was ripped off, ....


CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!
 
I installed The 90mm headlights. Jim just recommended the 90mm hella's to me, as he has been running them in a Porsche of his, and really likes them. I didn't buy those lights from him, I bought them off Amazon.
 
I installed The 90mm headlights. Jim just recommended the 90mm hella's to me, as he has been running them in a Porsche of his, and really likes them. I didn't buy those lights from him, I bought them off Amazon.

Talking of the mounts and lights?? or just the lights??

those pans and mounting frames for the lights are Marck's design....or at least the concept.....:club:
 
I installed The 90mm headlights. Jim just recommended the 90mm hella's to me, as he has been running them in a Porsche of his, and really likes them. I didn't buy those lights from him, I bought them off Amazon.

Talking of the mounts and lights?? or just the lights??

those pans and mounting frames for the lights are Marck's design....or at least the concept.....:club:

No they aren't. Those buckets were produced waaaaaaaaayyyyyy before Marck ever made his. Look at every vintage road race car out there, they are the same buckets.
 
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I installed The 90mm headlights. Jim just recommended the 90mm hella's to me, as he has been running them in a Porsche of his, and really likes them. I didn't buy those lights from him, I bought them off Amazon.

Talking of the mounts and lights?? or just the lights??

those pans and mounting frames for the lights are Marck's design....or at least the concept.....:club:

No they aren't. Those buckets were produced waaaaaaaaayyyyyy before Marck ever made his. Look at every vintage road race car out there, they are the same buckets.

Methinks are Ecklers' sugar scoops with other bulbs in there, same as what I had for years and then modified with later Camaro bulbs on mounts about 1/2 way further forward, which allowed me to reduce the opening size by some 50% in the fore/aft measure....see sites for pix....Ralph Eckler just down the road a piece near Kennedy Space center, Titusvulle made them scoops as his first product, I HAVE BEEN TOLD....and built a business off them and other products...

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I think big bulbs would look better with the bulged covers.
 
I think big bulbs would look better with the bulged covers.

I agree, the bulges are there because the lights stuck up above the the door opening. The small lights with the bulges look weird. It might help to paint the plastic, but ultimately why not run a flat cover.
 
I really like the projector lights.... thinking quite seriously about using them on mine - just have to figure out how to remount so I don't have to open the headlight doors as much.... I've also thought of sliding them up on tracks, so you don't have to have the lights up to use them.... anyway, nice work - no matter who was the innovator. After all, it's not who did it, it's who made money off it, just ask Mr. Christopher Columbus about that :D
 
One thing I have failed to mention, in my use of the later Camaro lights mounted further forward on the Ecklers sugar scoops.....the back side has been opened up a bit, the air is almost free flow around the light bulbs and mounts and free shot out the back for better/free flow to the radiator, not measured any type of tests, but it seems better by eyeball....:2nd::push::twitch::eek:
 

I agree, the bulges are there because the lights stuck up above the the door opening. The small lights with the bulges look weird.It might help to paint the plastic, but ultimately why not run a flat cover.


Well, I shouldn't say much my car has been flat black and in need of body work for years.

It was good that TT posted his pattern for members to use. I see duntov sells the covers at a reasonable price.
 
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