'88-91 serp drive needed.....

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Prez of my car club has a '79 vette he wants to put a serp drive setup on it....

I have an '88+ setup on my '72 that he has seen.....

need it all but the alt.....

Thanks

GENE
 
The General Motors Performance Part catalog sells, last time I looked three Serpentine kits for the small blocks. One is just the basic brackets, idler pulley, and tensioner. The second includes all power accessories except the AC compressor. The third is the second kit with an AC compressor.

Best I remember this Serpentine kit is the same Serpentine kit installed on 1990 and 1991 Camaros and Firebirds, so they should be really inexpensive at a salvage yard. The GM catalog prices are pretty reasonable best I remember. Remember, you'll need a reverse rotation water pump. The kit includes a cast iron pump. Cast aluminum reverse rotation pumps are available from Edelbrock. The reverse rotation pump means you'll need a reverse rotation fan. Good opportunity for an excuse to buy an electric fan. Also, the kit comes with a bigger capacity alternator. Maybe you'll go for getting a kit with the accessories. Also the Serpentine kit PS pump comes with a high pressure hose connection that is metric. You can buy a brass adapter for a few bucks.
 
88 to 92 f bodies had the serpentine drive. An 1le ac delete pulley is easy to get. Rerouting the belt eliminates the air pump

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Called two junkyards here locally, and those cars are stripped almost immediately for that serp drive, other guys getting rid of V belts also....

what a mess......so no one has any, the rest of the yards we would have to go visit......

MY C4 setup been on the '72 for near 20 years now, why is the F body version better?? :eek:
 
Hey Gene - might add I have the reverse water pump listed in the classifieds too- Never used brand new - but I tossed the box.
check it out here:
http://vettemod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9874

Could make a great package deal. :thumbs: PayPal and combine shipping!

Cheers - Jim

Forwarded/copy/paste off to Norb, who has links to this thread and certainly forum

he maybe even join the educational experience ......:thumbs:
 
Pardon the hijack but does anyone know if the F body serpentine setup or any of the other options will work with my CS144 alternator and my Sanden SD5H14 AC compressor?

DC
 
Look for 90s Caprices or Impalas. Some of them used the same low-profile setup as the F-body.

The CS144 will fit, but only with a special cradle that's been out of production for about five years.
 
Just to follow up my previous posting about the GM Performance Parts Catalog Serpentine kits for the SB...you one stop shopping solution for all new equipment.

(1) This kit goes on a C3 SB with no problem. The idler bracket has to be mounted upside down to avoid interference with the passenger's side spring tower. This just shifts the location of the idler pulley that's no problem at all. As I related before,if you buy the kit PS pump, you have to buy a few dollar brass adapter to go from metric to english for the high pressure outlet.
(2) One of the passenger's side cast aluminum bracket mounting holes doesn't correspond to a cylinder head mounting threaded hole...it's probably missing on your SB. Instructions say to just ignore this. I did and no problem many years later.

(3) Pulleys...The 1990, 1991 Camero, Firebird which the Serpentine kit is a duplicate of, has pulley diameters that drive the water pump, PS, and alternator at relatively high rpms. This is for these street cars that may experience idling in hot weather with the AC on. AC on means a lot of electricity demands, the electric fan, maybe the headlights on, etc.........I bought March billet specialty aluminum pulleys to underdrive all my accessories. I wanted to avoid as much as possible the water pump, alternator, PS, parasitic drag on my engine. Also the March aluminum pulleys look great. The underdrive pulleys basically work out just fine. However, at idle at about 600 rpms, the electric fan gets into the battery. At idle, I have to keep the engine about 1000 rpm to keep out of the battery....a little more with headlights on..of course for a few minutes at a stop light, using the battery a little is no problem. I power my fan directly off the alternator..not the battery.

(4) Love the appearance of the Serpentine and the ease of maintaining it..it keeps itself in tension for all the accessories. However, as I learned with my 96 Tbird DD, if you loose your serpentine belt on the freeway...you're dead in the water. When the serpentine belt on my DD broke, I could get a little more driveability out of the car since I had pure ethylene glycol coolant in the engine. Because ethlene glycol boils only at an extreme high temperature, I could drive the car off the freeway without damaging the engine. My 68 SB ZZ4 has 100% ethylene glycol in the cooling system. My 97 DD Cadillac Seville has 100% ethylene glycol in the cooling system also. Still have 50/50 Dextrol in the 08.
 
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Pardon the hijack but does anyone know if the F body serpentine setup or any of the other options will work with my CS144 alternator and my Sanden SD5H14 AC compressor?

DC

DC3 -- Took a few measurements for your CS 144 and Sanden...
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I couldn't use this setup because my Valve Covers are Extra Height (too tall).

Cheers - Jim
 
f body setup fits tall covers if you get an alt with a stud and not the 90deg bolt down connection on the back. That will require grinding the covers
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