C3 steering box weight?

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Anybody have one sitting around that they can throw on a scale? I'm trying to add up all the left side weight I've removed from the car and I don't have the number that reflects this deleted part (car has a rack at the moment). I looked in the tech section, but no luck.

Thanks,
Mike
 
I have some but no scale LOL but for accuracy you'd have to weigh the whole system including the center link and assist piston and frame mount bracket. It's a heavy bit of kit for sure
 
I hate saying this, but I weighed the stock shit vs my rack install, 8 years ago, and just for my own curiosity, and so never recorded the numbers....

sorry....CRS.....

damnit....

:flash:
 
I have some but no scale LOL but for accuracy you'd have to weigh the whole system including the center link and assist piston and frame mount bracket. It's a heavy bit of kit for sure

Yeah, I agree. I'm just slowly trying to tabulate the amount of weight I've taken off the left side of the car (or moved to the right side) in my attempt to get some sort of balanced handling out of the car. The car in stock configuration had always seemed to prefer left hand corners (which makes sense given driver weight and all the other stuff that's packaged on the left side), while obviously also giving me a bit of understeer in right hand corners.

Given that most of these changes aren't rocket science, I really wish I would have done these years ago and enjoyed a more balanced car all that time.
 
I have one sitting in my garage, I'll ask a friend next door if he has a digital scale, mine is way too crappy to get you a reliable reading.
Note that it will be without the pitman arm.
 
I wouldn't sweat 20 pounds that much. Especially in the steering box. It sits so low relative to all the other stuff that the leverage force it applies to the center of gravity is neglegable. It probably has far more effect on polar moment of inertia than COG, but then how you going to change that? I have an engineer friend who builds race cars as a paid hobby. He doesn't really care how much something weighs, as long as the weight can either be mitigated or used for advantage. It took a long time for me to accept this as I too have been a "cut the weight" sophist for as long as I've been driving. But his point to me was really pretty simple, if you're racing on a track you could cut a couple hundred pounds by not running a rollcage. Would you do that? Obviously not because not only is it a safety element but provides significant structural advantages that completely mitigate its weight penalty.
You want to remove some worthless weight? You would be far better off mounting fixed headlights and shitcanning the pop-ups.
 
I wouldn't sweat 20 pounds that much. I disagree. Twenty pounds is close to .7% of the car weight. Especially in the steering box. It sits so low relative to all the other stuff that the leverage force it applies to the center of gravity is neglegable. I disagree again. It further contributes to the already overweight left side of these cars. It probably has far more effect on polar moment of inertia than COG, but then how you going to change that? I put a lighter weight, lower-positioned steering system in it. I don't know that I reduced the PMoI much, but I did even out the L-R weight distribution substantially with this change. I have an engineer friend who builds race cars as a paid hobby. He doesn't really care how much something weighs, as long as the weight can either be mitigated or used for advantage. It took a long time for me to accept this as I too have been a "cut the weight" sophist for as long as I've been driving. But his point to me was really pretty simple, if you're racing on a track you could cut a couple hundred pounds by not running a rollcage. Would you do that? I don't know. I do know that Indycar and Formula One cars run without a cage. If an additional 200# of steel tubing improved their competitiveness, I'm sure we'd see more cages on those cars. Obviously not because not only is it a safety element but provides significant structural advantages that completely mitigate its weight penalty. There is a big difference between unavoidable weight gain (I put about 30# of material into the frame to improve the torsional and beam strength), and ignored weight gain, such as old design cast-iron pieces.You want to remove some worthless weight? You would be far better off mounting fixed headlights and shitcanning the pop-ups.

I've already pulled some weight out of that area, but I'm constrained on what I can do as I am trying to retain a "sleeper" look.
 
:surrender:

Is it ME, or why is it that a mere 20 lbs or so is so heavy when popped out from the frame, with me under it...???

or anything of that sort?? FEELS like 120 lbs.....

:eek::tomato::rofl:
 

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