differential rebuild

keywestjack

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I am going to have my differential rebuilt this winter, and thinking about changing the gears. Any suggestions? (77 automatic with low milage engine rebuild and moderate performance up grades). The transmission is also low milage and will be getting a transgo shift kit this winter as well. Thanks guys!
 
Gary GTR999? is the man for rebuilds....but it sounds like a stock rebuild would work fine for you, his are grenade proof.....

the output yokes will have to be replaced if OEM, they wear on the ends and get down to the retaining clips and then toast the entire diffy as the clips get into the gears....so watch them close there....

gear ratios? I dunno, I have 200 4r auto, so stayed with 336 OEM rear....thinking of maybe a 308 to go there, got the gearset but not changed it yet due to lazyness....:crutches:
 
My 68 turns about 3000 rpm at 70 mph. Drives me nuts; I hate to think of the unnecessary engine wear and also it sucks a lot of gas.

When I rebuilt the car, it was 20 years after I last driven it. I didn't remember any concern about engine speed, and I just assumed, without questioning, that it was a 3.08:1. Looks like I have a 3.36:1.(?) If I would have known, I would have installed a 3.08:1. Maybe someday, I'll get an overdrive Tremac. This diff was rebuilt by Kenny, who worked for Tom's Differentials.
 
A couple of thoughts. You first should decide on what you want to do with the car. The gearing should be setup to match your engine RPM range and trans.

With your 77 you most likely have a base 350 TH350 and 308 gear. Pretty much a slug on the streets back in '77 and today. Nice for cruising around and traveling.

There is very little difference between a 308 and 336. In fact I wouldn't recommend rebuilding a diff if that is the only concern. I changed from 308 to 336 in my 72 350 automatic and there was really no difference in driving, maybe a little more off line but no tire burning difference. The RPM @ 60-65 mph ia about 2500-2800- my speedo is off 3 mph with the change because I didn't bother to change the speedo gear yet.

You would feel a difference with a 355 but more so with a 373. I use 373 over the 370 gears. You'll probably want to go to a 2400 stall TC with the 355 or 373's. You will feel a difference then. Add a cam,intake,heads, and 2.5 real dual exhaust and you're going to feel a big difference. Tune and jet the carb and set the timing and go.

It will be in the 3200-3400 RPm 65 mph range and gas mileage will be about 10 mpg if that matters. My car, out of tune, 336's, cruising got a best of 15 mph watching the pedal. The only way you're going to get much more would be to add a OD and maybe FI. If an OD is something you may go to then I would use the 373 ratio over the others. I'd say just about all the diff's I've built for use with an OD were 373's.

Now as far as a build you have several options. You could go a catalog exchange/rebuild. Those will usually cost more then they quote because they low ball them and figure just a master kit and maybe clutches. Some places go evenr futher by cutting corners using cheaper parts and lousy work practices. I could write a book on that subject alone and have the pictures to prove it.

Next you could buy the parts and give it a go yourself. I have coached a few guys through the work but if you never worked with a micrometer, dial indicator,or have access to a machine shop I wouldn't recommend it. Yes plenty of places rebuild them without a lot of that stuff, a lot of those end up here with me to correct.:smash:

I could build you a diff to handle up to 1000 hp as well. I build them to application and they are second to none.

As with anything it all comes down to how much you want and have to spend on the work. Do you want average or the best?

77-79 diff's had issue with the side yokes as Gene mentioned, also used weak clutches,and RG bolts. The big problem with a lot of the RG bolts is they went to a flanged head bolt and didn't loctite them in place. I wonder if they even torqued them becaue a fair amout of those diff's had RG bolts back out and jam up the diff's. The good point, they can be built very strong using Tom's parts and good machine pratices.

Good luck
 
LONG time ago, I blew the 8.25 gear outta my Dodge work van, put in a 321 from a buddy's tow car....the OEM was a 2.94 ratio....the 321 managed to actually let the thing get off the line with a reasonable throttle in traffic...just that silly 10% now that is the only recent enough experience I have with a gear change, and it's in a 4400 lbs work van....filled with helium.....:eek:

so I look at my '72 and hat the thought of turning it into a slug, but really if I change the cam for something milder, and do the gear change, maybe the thing would do a good high single digit MPG improvement....??

tired of 850 rpm idles, and 10 mpg in short trips....like 2 miles round trip....

if I do highway, it seems to get about 20 mpg....not enough either....

so quandry....should I change both cam and diffy?? I tempted to do it this winter just to write about it....my curiosity is getting there on account of gas being stupid high priced....

:eek:

question is...to change cam, or gears first....any suggestions???

:surrender::twitch:
 
MRVETTE do your diff first. my 79 has 200r4 3.55 and has a stock 350 with a thumper cam,holley and home made sidepipes. my best hyway milage was 200km/20L,or nearly 30imp MPG at its best. Have since put stock cam back in,stock qjet,near stock exhaust(no cat,straight thru muffs)and its proberly the same milage now. 2k rpm@67mph
 
Gene changing the diff gearing probably isn't going to get you where you want to be. Going from a 336 to 308 isn't going to make much of a difference at all. The next gear down would be a 273 then the question is will the engine lug along in OD with the 273's?

Cam would probably be the better option since you have 336 & OD now, even with that you're going to need fuel and ignition tuning.

If it were mine I don't think I'd do anything unless the engine is due for a rebuild.
 
Gene changing the diff gearing probably isn't going to get you where you want to be. Going from a 336 to 308 isn't going to make much of a difference at all. The next gear down would be a 273 then the question is will the engine lug along in OD with the 273's?

Cam would probably be the better option since you have 336 & OD now, even with that you're going to need fuel and ignition tuning.

If it were mine I don't think I'd do anything unless the engine is due for a rebuild.

Gary, I have injection on it now....24# injectors, LT1 induction, L98 engine, 52 mm t body....and a TPIS ZZ9 cam thinking of putting in the stock L98 cam and maybe 21? lbs stock L98 vette injectors....

since that will yield a 600 rpm idle instead of the 850 I have now, with the increased torque down lo, I thinking also the gearset at that point....

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