How long B 4 gas goes sour?

DeeVeeEight

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How long can the gas stay in my tank before it goes bad? The witch hasn't let me back in the house for 3 months now and I am wondering if the gas in the tank (of my 'Vette, Buick and Boat) is going sour.

How long is gas good for if you add Stabil to it?
 
Let's put it this way. You got much bigger problems.

My Mustang sits all winter and runs fine on the gas that's been sitting for 6 months.
 
turtlevette;95122[COLOR="Blue" said:
]Let's put it this way. You got much bigger problems.[/COLOR]

My Mustang sits all winter and runs fine on the gas that's been sitting for 6 months.

You got that right, but thinking about other issues is a good distraction. I have to let the lawyers and the judges do what they do, all I can do is wait (and pay and pray).:gurney:

Does anyone know how long fuel treated with Stabil is good for?
 
It depends on storage method. I always heard you should fill a motorcycle tank up in the fall (if you were putting it up for the winter). I have had year old gas in a bike and it runs fine. However, the bike is always in a dry garage so that probably helps. I think moisture in the air is the culprit.
 
The 'Vette and the Buick are in the garage. The boat is in the driveway. The fuel in the boat has been treated with Stabil but it is going on almost 2 years now and I am concerned that I might need to drain and discard the old fuel.
 
I question anything older than 1 year. Otherwise, I don't worry about it.
 
First off, I have NO CLUE about modern fuels.....lord knows the crap they pass off as gasoline today is about 1/2 what it once was....

having said that, I fired my Mother's '63 Olds and after rebuilding the carb and brakes I got it to the gas station some 6 miles away after it was setting in the garage for 25 years.....

:smash::thumbs: tank was on 1/2.....it had evaporated....topped it off with high test, car ran fine....

:eek:
 
I question anything older than 1 year. Otherwise, I don't worry about it.

Same here. It might still be good, but going on 2 years....I would drain it.

It has been treated with Stabil - any difference? or still drain it? We are talking about 40 gallons of fuel here.

Stabil is only good for about a year.

I hear ya man....my boat tank was 80 gallons. If it were mine, I would drain it...


Siphon it into the future ex's car and tell her you gave her a free fill up.
 
drain it where? Just run it thru and expect a bit of performance drop off.

Wow, Lots of worrywarts. I'm thinking about doing an experiment. Fill up then pour a quart of water in the tank. I bet it doesn't harm a thing. I have in the past put 2 quarts of used ATF in the tank and it started to fall off performance and smoke a bit.

Ever heard of water injection?

Or maybe start with 1/2 tank and add a cup of water at a time until it starts running badly. Then fill up to dillute. There should be almost a gallon of ethanol in 1/2 tank and that should be able to absorb a bunch of water. About an equal amount?
 
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drain it where? Just run it thru and expect a bit of performance drop off.

Wow, Lots of worrywarts. I'm thinking about doing an experiment. Fill up then pour a quart of water in the tank. I bet it doesn't harm a thing. I have in the past put 2 quarts of used ATF in the tank and it started to fall off performance and smoke a bit.

Ever heard of water injection?

Or maybe start with 1/2 tank and add a cup of water at a time until it starts running badly. Then fill up to dillute. There should be almost a gallon of ethanol in 1/2 tank and that should be able to absorb a bunch of water. About an equal amount?

Worry warts? So, have you ever taken your boat into a big body of water? I said if it were me I would drain it. Why, cuase the last place I would want my system to fug up on me is in open water.

He will do want he wants....if it was for a car, I'd fire it up and see what happens. Drain it into 5 gallon gas cans...run the first fivegallons through a DD or simalar vehicle. If all goes well, then drain the rest into 5 gallon jugs and just transfer to the car. Within a couple of weeks it's gone. Or, if the car runs fine, then maybe take a chance on the boat.
 
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Worry warts? So, have you ever taken your boat into a big body of water? I said if it were me I would drain it. Why, cuase the last place I would want my system to fug up on me is in open water.

He will do want he wants....if it was for a car, I'd fire it up and see what happens. Drain it into 5 gallon gas cans...run the first fivegallons through a DD or simalar vehicle. If all goes well, then drain the rest into 5 gallon jugs and just transfer to the car. Within a couple of weeks it's gone. Or, if the car runs fine, then maybe take a chance on the boat.

Yep, that's a good idea. Dilute it with new gas on something you don't care about as much. I thought people are talking about dumping on the ground. Well maybe mrvette.

I wasn't thinking about open ocean or a big lake. Don't want to take a chance there. I don't know if there is such a thing as a water grabber filter for a boat. A quick search returned this. http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=6427
 
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I question anything older than 1 year. Otherwise, I don't worry about it.

Same here. It might still be good, but going on 2 years....I would drain it.

It has been treated with Stabil - any difference? or still drain it? We are talking about 40 gallons of fuel here.

Stabil is only good for about a year.

I hear ya man....my boat tank was 80 gallons. If it were mine, I would drain it...


Siphon it into the future ex's car and tell her you gave her a free fill up.

HAHAHA! I LIKE THAT! :rofl:
 
drain it where? Just run it thru and expect a bit of performance drop off.

Wow, Lots of worrywarts. I'm thinking about doing an experiment. Fill up then pour a quart of water in the tank. I bet it doesn't harm a thing. I have in the past put 2 quarts of used ATF in the tank and it started to fall off performance and smoke a bit.

Ever heard of water injection?

Or maybe start with 1/2 tank and add a cup of water at a time until it starts running badly. Then fill up to dillute. There should be almost a gallon of ethanol in 1/2 tank and that should be able to absorb a bunch of water. About an equal amount?

Worry warts? So, have you ever taken your boat into a big body of water? I said if it were me I would drain it. Why, cuase the last place I would want my system to fug up on me is in open water.

He will do want he wants....if it was for a car, I'd fire it up and see what happens. Drain it into 5 gallon gas cans...run the first fivegallons through a DD or simalar vehicle. If all goes well, then drain the rest into 5 gallon jugs and just transfer to the car. Within a couple of weeks it's gone. Or, if the car runs fine, then maybe take a chance on the boat.


Yah mon! You can not just coast over to the shoulder of the road if your boat's motor goes kaflutz. You are adrift and at the mercy of the wind and the tides. A tow (without towing insurance) is several hundred dollars.:clobbered:
 
Siphon it into the future ex's car and tell her you gave her a free fill up.
.....With a little sugar.....

I agree though with a lot of the above. My car & my (former) old truck have sat for a year with no problems, but for a boat sitting that long, I think I would siphon some or most and refill with new.

Water injection & water sitting in the tank are two different things. Gene should have some opinion about water in the tank :cussing:.......
 
Siphon it into the future ex's car and tell her you gave her a free fill up.
.....With a little sugar.....

I agree though with a lot of the above. My car & my (former) old truck have sat for a year with no problems, but for a boat sitting that long, I think I would siphon some or most and refill with new.

Water injection & water sitting in the tank are two different things. Gene should have some opinion about water in the tank :cussing:.......

:shocking::pprrtt: MOST/some of you know the story....enough....:gurney:

except to say, if you have water in the tank, the water is on the bottom, where do you think the fuel pickup resides??
 
40 gallons? That's a lot of money if you want a refill.

I think that in a sealed container, water free gasoline will last forever. If it's not sealed, daily cycling temperatures from hot day time to cool night time will cause the tank to "breath." I think the effect would be to vent off the aromatic hydrocarbons in the fuel and also breath in water vapor in the air. Since gasoline today has alcohol in it, the water can dissolve in the gasoline. I worry about the water situation, since I don't drive my 68 much, I worry about rust forming in the tank or corrosion in the carburetor which is made out of pot metal. Also, I do know that if you get a layer of actual water on the bottom of the tank, a reddish brown anaerobic bacteria can start to grow in the interface between the gasoline and the water. This stuff can clog up fuel filters. Also, just plain old tank rust and rust forming in the steel fuel lines is a potential filter clogger.

In your situation, for me, I'd worry about rust forming in the fuel tank and clogging up a fuel filter. If there's any rust in the system, the rocking of the boat will kick up the rust. Anyway to stir or agitate the fuel to see if it turns to a reddish brown color?

For old gas that's lost it's aromatic content, I'd think buying a can or two of Torco, would do the trick. The guy that dyno tuned my 08 (Andy Green of A&A Vettes), says it's the only fuel additive he's found that actually works. Best I can tell Torco is really just heptane and octane, so these are the aromatics you want back into the fuel. His story was that on an ~700 rear wheel hp car, Torco allowed him to dial up advance to get another 70 Hp.
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About bacteria fuel for disbelievers. Just months after WWII ended, military aircraft in Japan, Philappines, etc. began having problems with fuel filter clogging. The AF equipped a B29 with lab equipment and my father, a chemical engineer, was one of the civilians sent on the trip. The plane flew from Wright Patterson AFB to Hawaii, Philippines, Japan, etc. My dad's seating assignment was in the tail gunners position. By the time they got to the Philappines, they knew what the problem was. They kept it a secret since they wanted a boondoggle trip to Japan. It was the trip of a lifetime!

With the end of combat operations, the AF decided to drop the octane rating of av gas to save money. The drop in octane, and particularly the tropical warmth of places like the Phillapines allowed anaerobic bacteria to start growing if there was any water present in the gasoline. The recommended solution was simply to increase the octane specification level to war time levels.

Returning from a trip to Mexico in the late 60's, by Mustang fuel filter clogged. The fuel was reddish brown. I think they had to drop the tank to flush it. Who knows what it was..just plain water generated filling station tank rust or maybe those infamous bacteria.
 
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I don't know if there is such a thing as a water grabber filter for a boat.

Yes they make a water separator filter for boat use. I keep one on my boat. Looks like a big oil filter. Most marinas and online boat supply places have them.

Several years ago I started running Sea Foam in my boat tank as a fuel stabilizer on the advice of an old motorcycle mechanic. I like the way it works much better than Stabil. Boat starts easier in the spring. I used to let my boat fuel go two years if I had stabilized it, but not longer than that. Now that it is so hard to find fuel without ethanol in it, I've been draining the boat tank at the end of the season and using the fuel in my daily driver.

DC
 

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