I bet TT loves this idea.
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Belgian1979vette
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They are considering the same thing here. A load of ...
They are talking about something like € 0,10 per kilometer.
If I look at my wifes car : she does about 15000 km per year, so that equals to about € 1500, mostly (90%) for travelling to work. So together with all the other costs of the car, this will mean about €500 per month. Take the fact that we have to pay for people looking after our kids when we work... we will have to consider her staying on the job or just staying at home.
She works as a nurse, which is a economic branche where they supply of educated people is low...not exactly good idea in my book.
But then again who am I.
They are talking about something like € 0,10 per kilometer.
If I look at my wifes car : she does about 15000 km per year, so that equals to about € 1500, mostly (90%) for travelling to work. So together with all the other costs of the car, this will mean about €500 per month. Take the fact that we have to pay for people looking after our kids when we work... we will have to consider her staying on the job or just staying at home.
She works as a nurse, which is a economic branche where they supply of educated people is low...not exactly good idea in my book.
But then again who am I.
Twin_Turbo
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Not really thrilled for multiple reasons:
1) it never gets cheaper, BS!! government wants more money always, never less. There will be some kind of gas guzzler/CO2 emissions thing incorporated with this, possibly leading to having to pay 20 cents a KM or so...mark my words!
2) They will scrap the insane ~45% tax on new cars, Well, they sure are going to get that money elsewhere, they will invent a new tax.
3) Setting up and maintaining this system, if it ever becomes operational (operating acceptable) it's going to cost shitloads and they will need even more civil servants to maintain and operate it...just what we need even more leeches..err...I mean civil servants
4) Big Brother. Like everything we have been lied to about in the recent past (like the personal healthcare insurance that would make it so much better, ended up making everything worse and costing 400% more than the old system) it's all meant to increase control. They will know where you are all of the time. We already have the most phone taps of any country in the world, they already trace our cell phones, our medical files are online available to about everyone (incl. insurance companies)...they will probably automatically start sending tickets for speeding and what not.
Our country is becoming worse than East Germany or Russia ever were, no other country probably has this level of privacy infringement.
1) it never gets cheaper, BS!! government wants more money always, never less. There will be some kind of gas guzzler/CO2 emissions thing incorporated with this, possibly leading to having to pay 20 cents a KM or so...mark my words!
2) They will scrap the insane ~45% tax on new cars, Well, they sure are going to get that money elsewhere, they will invent a new tax.
3) Setting up and maintaining this system, if it ever becomes operational (operating acceptable) it's going to cost shitloads and they will need even more civil servants to maintain and operate it...just what we need even more leeches..err...I mean civil servants
4) Big Brother. Like everything we have been lied to about in the recent past (like the personal healthcare insurance that would make it so much better, ended up making everything worse and costing 400% more than the old system) it's all meant to increase control. They will know where you are all of the time. We already have the most phone taps of any country in the world, they already trace our cell phones, our medical files are online available to about everyone (incl. insurance companies)...they will probably automatically start sending tickets for speeding and what not.
Our country is becoming worse than East Germany or Russia ever were, no other country probably has this level of privacy infringement.
clutchdust
Millionaire Playboy
Sucky news. Hope it gets stopped. But the fact is that government will keep growing if left unchecked. Government is like a vine. It has to be trimmed and pruned constantly or else it starts to take over.
saudivette
Clueless In Sandland
I agree with TT. They'll never drop the price or make it up with some other bullshit tax...
Twin_Turbo
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Prices on new cars will drop 25%? Yet the BPM tax that they are talking about is right around 45%, still leaves 20 in the register don't it??
This is how leftist liberal socialist extortion works (and you guys will get it too with that hope bringer y'all gotz in office over yonder)
BPM = Bruto Price Added Value (a leftist thieving tax thing) (45.2%)
BTW = Sales Tax (19%)
CP = Catalog Price
Total price for car = CP + CP*0.452 BPM + CP*0.19 BTW + some kind of gas guzzler type added amount.
In short it's no wonder a brand new ZR1 is 200.000 euros here, about 300.000 dollars nowadays.
We have plenty of civil servants and immigrants to feed so...they need mo money
This is how leftist liberal socialist extortion works (and you guys will get it too with that hope bringer y'all gotz in office over yonder)
BPM = Bruto Price Added Value (a leftist thieving tax thing) (45.2%)
BTW = Sales Tax (19%)
CP = Catalog Price
Total price for car = CP + CP*0.452 BPM + CP*0.19 BTW + some kind of gas guzzler type added amount.
In short it's no wonder a brand new ZR1 is 200.000 euros here, about 300.000 dollars nowadays.
We have plenty of civil servants and immigrants to feed so...they need mo money
Jughead
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Libs never saw a tax they didn't like.
Belgian1979vette
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The privacy issue is another one. Makes you wonder isn't it : they make all kind of laws to protect privacy and at the same time they walk all over them.
Welcome to new communism.:bomb:
Welcome to new communism.:bomb:
Twin_Turbo
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They now say they will only be storing the miles driven, which is a blatant lie as one of the things this system can do is increase the price per mile for driving in congested area or during rush hour...how are they going to do that if they don't know WHERE you are at WHAT time? Lying sons of biotches...all of them.
mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
Wrap the antenna in tin foil......case closed.....
guys WILL be making interface emulators for the common car systems....
the car will never know the diff....
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guys WILL be making interface emulators for the common car systems....
the car will never know the diff....
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Belgian1979vette
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What a fucking idiotic world are we living in today...you would kill yourself for less.
