Liquid Nail Ingredients

big2bird

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Analysis:Water (7732-18-5);Distallates,Petroleum.Hydrotreated Heavy Napthenic(64742-52-5);Distillates,(Petroleum),Steam Cracked, Polymers with Light Steam Cracked Petroleum Naptha (68410-16-2); Styrene Bufadiene Copolymer (Cas unknown);Limestone(1317-65-3);Quartz (14808-60-7);Kaolin(1332-58-7);Titanium Oxide(13463-67-7);Cristobalite(14464-46-1); Contents Partially Unknown

I just love the "Contents Partially Unknown." What the hell does that mean?:sweat:
(Not literally).
 
Sounds like the olde tyme original paneling adhesive....must be...

but they sell some new crap out now that is water clean up/soluble....

and not worth 2 shits....

won't stick to anything plastic, which is about 1/2 the world any more...come think of it not urethane paints or steels every well either...

:crutches:
 
I just love the "Contents Partially Unknown." What the hell does that mean?:sweat:
(Not literally).

Pretty common terminology for just about any distillate of a naturally occurring material. When you distil a mixture you end up with high percentages of what you're trying to get with lesser percentages of other things. When you analyze the distillate, you end up with small peaks on a chromatogram that you couldn't be bothered to analyze and identify. Most of the time they don't matter, but sometimes...

Interesting story from my mis-spent youth in University. Alcohol distillation is a pretty sophisticated science because of how popular the process and products are. Turns out that when the process isn't well controlled and corn mash is used as a sugar source (like in moonshine) you end up with a VERY small percentage of a contaminant called fusel (sp?) oil. It's a mixture of primarily three molecules that are extremely toxic to the central nervous system. This is where moonshine gets its "kick" that normal booze doesn't posses.
 
I just love the "Contents Partially Unknown." What the hell does that mean?:sweat:
(Not literally).

Pretty common terminology for just about any distillate of a naturally occurring material. When you distil a mixture you end up with high percentages of what you're trying to get with lesser percentages of other things. When you analyze the distillate, you end up with small peaks on a chromatogram that you couldn't be bothered to analyze and identify. Most of the time they don't matter, but sometimes...

Interesting story from my mis-spent youth in University. Alcohol distillation is a pretty sophisticated science because of how popular the process and products are. Turns out that when the process isn't well controlled and corn mash is used as a sugar source (like in moonshine) you end up with a VERY small percentage of a contaminant called fusel (sp?) oil. It's a mixture of primarily three molecules that are extremely toxic to the central nervous system. This is where moonshine gets its "kick" that normal booze doesn't posses.

YUP, I remember talking that over with some realy olde tymers from WAY back years ago.....

AND a buddy who graduated college, FINALLY, from Univ/Alabama at Athens Alabama, north part of the state, next to Tenn......so in his mountain travels WHO does he run into?? a fellow named Billy Bob Jones...what does Billy Bob DO?? drives a GEN U INE....tanker, just like Bob Mitchum in the movies....a REAL 440 powered MOPAR tanker, running the ridges on some mountainside at 90 mph......

Larry thought HE could drive.....

NO, Billy Bob could DRIVE....:harhar::harhar::gurney:
 
On the same note, our schools sell burritos, and the ingrediants say "may contain pork".
WTF, don't they KNOW?? I guess it's just the mystery meat of the day!
 
On the same note, our schools sell burritos, and the ingrediants say "may contain pork".
WTF, don't they KNOW?? I guess it's just the mystery meat of the day!

MY Jewish friends only ate Kosher pork....so it's only the islamics to be offended....

:devil::bounce:
 
Analysis:Water (7732-18-5);Distallates,Petroleum.Hydrotreated Heavy Napthenic(64742-52-5);Distillates,(Petroleum),Steam Cracked, Polymers with Light Steam Cracked Petroleum Naptha (68410-16-2); Styrene Bufadiene Copolymer (Cas unknown);Limestone(1317-65-3);Quartz (14808-60-7);Kaolin(1332-58-7);Titanium Oxide(13463-67-7);Cristobalite(14464-46-1); Contents Partially Unknown

I just love the "Contents Partially Unknown." What the hell does that mean?:sweat:
(Not literally).

Love that shit, it makes a great fire starter. We keep a calking gun with a tube full by the wood stove, few squits shes a burning. For hunting, I fill a few empty nip bottles, easy warm-up while empting a few more nips.

Michael.
 
Take a look at a tube of RTV. We use that stuff all the time. Read that and you can come up with a raft of reasons not to smooth it out with your finger.
 
Take a look at a tube of RTV. We use that stuff all the time. Read that and you can come up with a raft of reasons not to smooth it out with your finger.

been doing that for decades Tim....nothing much the matttter with meeee....

accept some daze....


:rofl:
 
Interesting story from my mis-spent youth in University. Alcohol distillation is a pretty sophisticated science because of how popular the process and products are. Turns out that when the process isn't well controlled and corn mash is used as a sugar source (like in moonshine) you end up with a VERY small percentage of a contaminant called fusel (sp?) oil. It's a mixture of primarily three molecules that are extremely toxic to the central nervous system. This is where moonshine gets its "kick" that normal booze doesn't posses.
I have to disagree with you here Mike. Fusel oil will always come off first regardless of what you use as sugar in the mash. Rule of thumb is dispose of the first 50ml collected and the rest is (when made right) perfectly good spirit - should be around %96 in strength if you're doing everything right.

Please don't ask me on a public forum how I know this :lol::lol:
 
Looks like we were both partially right Wayne. Fusel oil is a mixture including amyl alcohols. Apparently Fusel oil means potato oil and is formed in most fermentation including beer. It is found in the taillings rather than the early fractions of distilation. I remember that I heard about this in the contect of moonshine and assumed that it was associated with that fermentation process. Turns out it is only associated with poor distilation technique.

I know I never had this problem with my Corning distilation kit and apple cider in university. :beer: Made for a lovely mixer with a minimal hangover.
 
Yeah, I went over some material after I answered you last night:
Fusel Oils and Congeners:
One of the more widely known groups in the table is the higher alcohols, sometimes called fusel oils. In general, the compounds in this group are a mixture of volatile, oily liquids with a disagreeable odor and taste. Another, somewhat wider, grouping of the compounds listed are called congeners. Congeners include the aldehydes, esters, and primary alcohols such as methanol and isoamyl alcohol. Congener content is significant because they can act as CNS depressants, mucosal irritants, and produce nausea. Taken together, they appear to increase the duration of intoxication, the amount of hangover, and the toxicity of alcoholic beverages.
Not surprisingly, in the beverage industry, congeners and fusel oils are ordinarily allowed to remain in the finished distillation products. They are the major ingredients that differentiate brand name whiskeys by taste.
In many circles, the mark of a poorly distilled spirit is a colossal hangover. Whenever you distill something, the most volatile products come out first. So when you distill a mash, the low boiling point compounds in it (in general the Nitrogenous Substances, Aldehydes, and Esters) will appear in the first distillate. This part of the distillation is commonly called the "Heads". You can prevent them from contaminating the product you are attempting to separate by watching the temperature and discarding (or saving for addition to the next batch) everything that boils off before you reach the boiling point of the target component.
But, depending on the nature of the wash, it's sometimes difficult to isolate the heads by simply monitoring the temperature. It's easy to miss the boiling points of those compounds that vaporize below 70º C when there is an excess of heat input, and the vapors rise up the column quickly to reach the thermometer bulb. Many experienced distillers carefully monitor the taste and smell of the first distillate from the still to insure that all the heads are boiled off before they begin the collection of the body of the spirits. Others simply discard a small (e.g.150 ml) fixed amount, before beginning the collection of the ethanol.
A similar distillation cutoff point is also encountered as the ethanol nears depletion from the distillation. This phase is commonly referred to as the "Tails". The tails contain an increased amount of the higher boiling point compounds, such as the higher alcohols and furfurol. These compounds can also spoil the taste of the spirits if the collection is carried on too long. A cutoff similar to that of the heads should be made.
Again, you can recognize this point by monitoring either the temperature or the taste and smell of the distillate. Many distillers simply limit the collection of the pure spirits to a narrow range of temperatures (e.g. 78.3 - 80 C), and then make the cut. Others sample the specific gravity of the distillate as it nears the end of the run. Still others use the smell and taste indicators.
In any event, there usually is considerable ethanol that can be recovered from that remaining after the tails have been cut. Commonly, the tail collection is saved for inclusion in the next batch.
 

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