More carb questions (Holley)

clutchdust

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A couple weeks ago I changed the jets in my 750vs because the car is a gas hog. I was running 74 primary jets and the car ran fine, it just sucked gas. Like 8-10mpg, not particularly good for a moderate 355. I just dropped them down to 72s. I haven't really noticed a difference in gas consumption yet, but now all of a sudden I have this nasty bog on throttle tip-in. I didn't change my throttle cam or squirter so where the hell did the bog come from? It seems to be irrespective of RPM when it bogs although I haven't tried it above 3000rpm, but it will flat spot and then take off at anything from idle up to 3000rpm.
Thoughts?
 
There is more to your bog than just leaning out the Carb. By leaning out the carb 74 down to 72 you created a lean condition in the low RPM range as well as all through the fuel curve, you can try increasing the idle mixture screws, not sure which 750 vac you have , or if std or auto trans, Ignition timing will also play a part in this issue, Accelerator pump shooter etc. I believe that you will find that the 74 jets had absolutely nothing to do with your fuel mileage , you will likely be worse off in the lean condition because the motor is working harder to keep the car running. Do you have a vacuum guage set up in the car where you can see it easily when you are driving??????????
 
I agree..... in daily driving i guess the 70% of the time the caqrb is working in the range of the "transition slot".
A lot of people start to tune the carb changing the main jet..... but this is the last thing to do.
First of all it is VERY important the right idle tuning (you will need a vacuum gauge)
This is what I do:

1) fix an idle speed..... let say 800 RPM
2) with the vacuum gauge connected to the manifold, start to adjust the idle screws in the direction where the RPM increase.... and, consequentely, even the vacuum.
3) after this first step, let say you have some 1000 RPM idle...... close butterflys to restore the previous 800 RPM
4) keep working in this manner until you will reach the highest vacuum with the wanted idle speed.

After this operation you should have a very small portion of the transfer slot facing out from below the butterflys (some 0.020-0.030").

If you have a lot more slot opened..... your idle air bleed or you idle restrictor are of the wrong size!!!!!!

If you are in this balpark..... you can go on!

Normally, at this point, I disconnect the secondaires, in order to be able to open folly the primaires without any opening on the secondaries.

Now you can start to evaluate how your "first two holes" are working..... and if you accelerator pump is working.

If you don't have a wide band O2 sensor..... is a matter of "feeling" and you can only hope to be right.

Now let assume your primaries are ok...

Reconnect the secondaries and try to avaluate if the timing of the vacuum sacondaries is correct:

A small "puff" of black smoke when a quick WOT is operated should be ok!!!!
If you have too much black smoke, may the your secondaries are opening too slowny
If you notice a bog..... they are opening too quickly.

In my opinion the most important tuning area is the transition...... from idle to some 3000 RPM under light load.....

just my 2 cents....
 
Don't have a vacuum gauge I can read while driving but I do have a simple one I can hook up while working on the engine.
5-speed car.
As for the jets, I have tried both 74 and 70s previously. 70s just felt lean, 74s felt good but god, did this this thing suck gas. The carb originally came with 70s and I can't believe that at my elevation, 2100 feet, I would be running lean.
I do have an O2 sensor on my car that I can monitor while driving and it shows rich at cruising speed.
I will try what Stroker suggested tomorrow and see.
 
Get some extra hose and just duct tape it to the outside of the windshield.
In my truck I just run with one draped over the steering column by the hose. Beats having to look for it when I need it.
 
What kind of camshaft you have?
Even the advance curve must be defined according with your camshaft.

I hope my suggestion will help you!!! ;-)
 

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