Need info on buying a car in California for export.

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Need info on buying a car in California for export.

When buying from a dealer or private owner is there a tax that needs to be paid? Also what paper work is needed say for transferring ownership/registration? Keeping in mind that the car will only be exported after purchase..
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Need info on buying a car in California for export.

When buying from a dealer or private owner is there a tax that needs to be paid? Also what paper work is needed say for transferring ownership/registration? Keeping in mind that the car will only be exported after purchase..
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Talk to Marck he is experienced in those transactions. He bought my car and had it shipped to him.
 
My neighbor sells used cars (mostly upper end Mercedes and BMW). If I see him in the next day or so I'll ask about taxes. He's Iranian and I suspect he exports some go to Iran. For what few cars I've bought from private sellers, I don't remember paying taxes.

Even though this is going to be a one-shot transaction, I would strongly recommend joining the American Automobile Association. (google AAA for the local branch name where you'll be buying the car. Here in LA its called the Automobile Club of Southern California.) It'll cost about $65 to join. It's possible that this could be the best $65 you've ever spent. The AAA can do all the paperwork; change title, registration, provide a CA license plate and collect the plate fees, etc. They will also inspect the car as required by the California Department of Motor Vehicles. If you want to smog the car, you will have to have the car smogged yourself.

For export, you probably only have to do the paperwork to get legal title. You can also get temporary license plates that allow you to drive the car for a brief period.

The reason for going to the AAA instead of the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) is that the AAA employees are helpful, courteous, and intelligent. The DMV employees are government workers, often uninterested, and can sometimes take delight in using the rules and regulations to make things difficult for you. Plus long waiting lines at the DMV. AAA

Fees:

Fees for title transfer and temporary license plate (if you want it) are pretty minimal. I would guess you will have to pay a sales tax if you buy from a dealer, the tax is about 8 1/2 percent of the purchase price. Residents have to pay sales tax and even though exported,, I'd image you'd also. If you buy from a private person you have to pay a use tax which is 8 1/2 percent of the purchase price. When buying from a private person you can understate the purchase price and save on taxes. If your stated price is suspected as being too low, you may be challenged.


If you get a permanent registration and the accompanying license plate, the fee is based on the value of the car. The registration for my C6 was about $800. For my 68, it's maybe something like $60 (?). For old cars, the registration will be the minimum regardless of the amount you paid for it. Also as for smog, there's no smog test for cars made in 1975 and before. If you're getting an old car, it might make exporting more convenient just go ahead and register and get CA tags. Perhaps it might be easier with customs to have the car fully registered and licensed in the name of the buyer - I don't know.
 
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My neighbor sells used cars (mostly upper end Mercedes and BMW). If I see him in the next day or so I'll ask about taxes. He's Iranian and I suspect he exports some go to Iran.

Odd, I wonder why?? Iran is just a day's drive from Germany directly, why bother freighter that from California especially, 1/2 way around the world, for the same thing?? ask him that please, gotta be some .gov screwup involved....

taxes? laws?....


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I'm almost certain that you only pay sales tax at the time of registration. If you are exporting it, clearly there is no registration required.
 
Thanks guys.

What I am looking at is buying a Pickup truck from a private owner or an SSR from a dealer. Drive it to San Jose CA and leave it with my exporter. They will put it in a container there and I will pick it up here. No transfer of paper there or registering it. Now how much will the dealer charge over sell price if I pay cash? Also to drive it say from LA to San Jose will I have a problem like tags/ insurance? Or should I just ship it to San Jose?
 
Don't know about insurance, but tags stay with the car in CA. As long as the registration is current, you should be fine.
 
If you drive it, see if the current ownder will extend the insurance for a fee so you can drive it

They will probably tax you over the value of the car + cost of shipping. They do that here too (FFers even added inland US transport to the value... %$@%$@ leeches)
 
If you drive it, see if the current ownder will extend the insurance for a fee so you can drive it

They will probably tax you over the value of the car + cost of shipping. They do that here too (FFers even added inland US transport to the value... %$@%$@ leeches)

You GOTTA be fucking kidding me.....we been there before about that shit, but THAT is really stooping stupid lo......

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Odd, I wonder why?? Iran is just a day's drive from Germany directly, why bother freighter that from California

I think driving a car from Germany to Iran might take more than a day. And then you gotta get the driver back from Iran!

Dean, Isn't it illegal to import American cars into Thailand?
 
I've sold a couple cars to Europe and the mideast, but selling was where it stopped. I live 5 miles from one port amd 30 miles from another, so I delivered one car to where the buyer was staying here and took my plate and the others the exporter just had a flatbed pickup. Sales tax for Florida wasn't involved because the buyer pays it upon title change which likely wasn't going to happen in Florida anyway. One buyer did tell me that his home country was going to charge 100% tax on the selling price for importing. He wanted me to lower the bill of sale, but I ended up not giving one and told him he's on his own with his country and I wasn't going to falsify anything.

A lot of dealers export here, don't know if California sales tax is exempt for exports or not. Might have to check with Calif revenue or a Calif dealer. They probably deliver to the exporter at the port with the proper docs just like here. Might have to avoid dealers if Calif tax is to be paid.

Contact the US Customs, they have to release the car and paperwork and should be able to tell you what to do. It's in their hands when it gets to the port anyway.
 
Dean, Isn't it illegal to import American cars into Thailand?

I did not say a car...........but with loads of money anything can be done here.

Lets say the car costs you $5,000 in the US the Thai customs mafia then asses the car for 10 times the $5,000 or $50,000 then the taxis 300% on the 50,000= $150,000 duty on a $5,000 car. The funny part is before you ship it you check the import tax code or you actually ask the officer how much and what is needed to import the car. Now the printed regulations is close to what the officer told you, great. Now you ship it in and guess what the law that day/ hour/minute is different so you either pay up or they confiscate the car and sell it for auction, that the officer that confiscated it gets 40% of the auction price.:bomb:
 
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Just talked to my neighbor. He's exported cars.

He said all you need is a bill of lading and the title to the car signed by the owner. That's all. No taxes. That gets you out of the country. But you can't drive the car. (I think the interpretation of the "can't drive the car," is that you don't want to get caught. Or in other words when you show up at the port with car, it should at that point in time be on a flat bed truck.)

If you want to drive the car in the US, then you have to go through the complete sales tax, title transfer, registration, etc.

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Just having a signed title doesn't seem to offer a lot of safeguards against shipping a stolen car out of the country. Customs does do a VIN check now to make sure the car's VIN number is not a list of stolen cars.
 
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