Probably going for a Ferrari now

[Belgian1979vette]

I was in for another project since my vette is on the road now and I'm getting bored.

Was first looking at vettes. The C1, C2's ware basically out of the question pricewise. the later C4 and especially the C5 caught my attention at first. Had an eye on a couple cars, a 93 ZR1 and a 98 convertible. But then I discovered that due to the registration taxes being connected to the CO2 emissions of the car that would cost me another € 10,5k extra since the car's are not yet oldtimer (in which case registration taxes are a mere € 40). The price on them was around €15-18k but an extra tax of € 10,5k really kills these cars.

Then I came across the V8 Ferrari's and apparently the 348's have dropped in price and are within my reach. Currently looking at a early, 1989 348. Might push the button on that one.

In Dutch they have a word for government : Roverheid, roughly translated 'Robberment'

 

[mrvette]

Sorry, seem to have put in the wrong section.h:

I think I understand you regardless of the forum section....:clap:

 

[vette427sbc]

Cool! I really like that bodystyle

So... are you going to mod it? :devil:

 

[clutchdust]

Roverheid... will have to remember that.

 

[1Michel]

I like those 328 too, a lot.
Check out at Ferrarichat.com, guy named Newman did a few rebuilt 308,
Pretty nice and informative, this guy is a genious.
He's now into more expensive Boxers V12. but the build he did with the 308 are great and tons of pics.
Learned a lot about those cars with his threads.

 

[Belgian1979vette]

The thing is that a 328 being an oldtimer already costs way more than a 348. Basically you're in 360 territory with the price. Hence the reason for the 348.

Modding ? Well, don't know if there's a lot to mod. Will do my own maintenance on it for sure. These are pretty expensive cars when you have to go through dealer network.

 

[68L71]

Isn't the 348 known as the worst Ferrari ever?

 

[1Michel]

I missread youre talking about 348...

Then check this guy about Ferraris 348, he has a lot of videos about maintenance and repair on them.
Pretty good and handy

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IChNlcSU6GI[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRlltEa1JM[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCdDQBOMPyg[/ame]

+ he has a lot of videos repairing them too
Belts change, homemade exhaust, the dreaded alternator change etc .

http://www.youtube.com/user/sonordrum1000?feature=watch

And I see that you have started to look around LOL
Yves 1970

 

[MYBAD79]

I saw one for sale for $30.... Wish I had the cash to waste on another toy and the garage space to keep it......
What's funny is that when you serch for "Ferrari 348" this is among the first pages that pop up:

HowStuffWorks "Ferrari 348"
auto.howstuffworks.com/ferrari-348
The Ferrari 348 was a disappointment in both performance and sales. Get the facts on this road car's shortcomings and how Ferrari responded.

To be quiet honest: it's a frickin Ferrari and I don't care who's disappointed.... I'd love to have one

 

[1Michel]

I saw one for sale for $30.... Wish I had the cash to waste on another toy and the garage space to keep it......
What's funny is that when you serch for "Ferrari 348" this is among the first pages that pop up:

HowStuffWorks "Ferrari 348"
auto.howstuffworks.com/ferrari-348
The Ferrari 348 was a disappointment in both performance and sales. Get the facts on this road car's shortcomings and how Ferrari responded.

To be quiet honest: it's a frickin Ferrari and I don't care who's disappointed.... I'd love to have one

That's what I think too, last summer one her was at 30K then when the guy couldnt sell it dropped to 25 and was picked up real fast after that.
I heard it went for 22K the guy had to get rid of it fast.

There was a lot of bad publicity about those cars because probably it was the last Fcar Enzo was involved in, when the new prez got smoked in one of them 348, his Italian huge ego got hurt and he was pretty pissed then said it was the worse Ferrari he ever drove.
I guess he had to prove ''prove ''he could build a better one''

 

[MYBAD79]

I'd take the shittiest Ferrari over the best Kia ......any day...... :lol:


Even if it did not perform as brutal as other cars I've driven, it's going to be acceptable for me, I'm sure I'd never complain owning one of these

 

[Belgian1979vette]

I missread youre talking about 348...

Then check this guy about Ferraris 348, he has a lot of videos about maintenance and repair on them.
Pretty good and handy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IChNlcSU6GI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRlltEa1JM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCdDQBOMPyg

+ he has a lot of videos repairing them too
Belts change, homemade exhaust, the dreaded alternator change etc .

http://www.youtube.com/user/sonordrum1000?feature=watch

And I see that you have started to look around LOL
Yves 1970

I've been reading around on the maintenance. The engine out service is a bitch, but not something that is not impossible. I've done worse things to my vette lol.

As for the 348 comments on Ferrarichat are not that bad. This one is in prestine condition it seems (still have to see it irl). 50 k something km's and well maintained with records. Besides 300 hp out of a 3,4 liter engine is not really bad.
It's in The Netherlands. They have a problem in the sense that the oldtimer rules changed. The cars there need to be 40 years now. A lot of cars get unloaded now.
We have a problem here as well in the fiscal sense, but since this car is nearly an oldtimer according to my regulation which is 25 years, this would work out handsome.

Now I just need to convince the wife....that's the biggest issue, as usual.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

buying a Ferrari, now that's an idea I can get behind. Would you like me help you push it while I'm back here? :beer:

 

[denpo]

With a Ferrari at least this time you'd be on the right side of the pound, shipping-cost-wise.

 

[Belgian1979vette]

With a Ferrari at least this time you'd be on the right side of the pound, shipping-cost-wise.

Absolutely. Not to downtalk a Corvette, but most older Corvettes I've seen are pretty beat up. Most Ferraris aren't that bad in condition.And like I said the fiscal aspect plays a large role as well.

 

[mrvette]

With a Ferrari at least this time you'd be on the right side of the pound, shipping-cost-wise.

Absolutely. Not to downtalk a Corvette, but most older Corvettes I've seen are pretty beat up. Most Ferraris aren't that bad in condition.And like I said the fiscal aspect plays a large role as well.

Well, yes, no question, the typical Shark was bought by a returning VET of the wars, or someone with a chunk of change to spare, but a Ferrari was WAY higher in price almost anywhere on the globe, shipping be damned....so the F car was stored in a garage, driven on nice days, and damn seldom if ever left in a parking lot....so yes, the Vettes had a tough time through the decades.....
looking at the production numbers alone should indicate THAT much....

having sat in a friend's 944 some years ago, I suspect I could not fit into a Ferrari, much less drive it....too damn tall....


:hissyfit::ill:

 

[MYBAD79]

Well.... You're in Europe, not in the US...... owning a old Vette here is no big deal, parts are cheap and available, most of the parts are available at AutoZone, quality is shit but at least we don't pay a fortune to have that crap shipped across the Atlantic....
That said.... Ferrari stuff cost quiet a bit here, same for Porsche..... I would think that's a lot cheaper on the east side of the Atlantic where you are.... Go for it, it's a hobby (addiction) .... Lol

 

[1Michel]

.... Go for it, it's a hobby (addiction) .... Lol

I say the same thing,
Go for it Yves.

I know if I could, I would go for a F car in a heartbeat.
I just love the 355 spider, one day.....

 

[mrvette]

Years ago, make that close to 50 years, in Kensington Maryland, just outside DC was an outfit called Modifications Unlimited.....they were the ONLY licensed repair facility for all the famous European cars....Ferrari, Lambo, Porch, etc....

this was before actual dealerships were set up in the DC region, and foreign cars were a rarity in DC roads....back when an old friend drove a Citroen one of them with the wheel base all messed up and the turn signal flipped outta the B pillar he picked it up from someone in the French embassy......

Well so it seems that Lambo/Ferrari had this penchant for tossing engines at about 10k miles, lucky to see 15k miles on one, and the price to get one into the country ran like 7 grand or so, and by time it was in the car/running it ran over 10 grand......SO, the owners maybe krazy to pay that much, as a FEW DID, but most of them would opt for the SBC replacement engine....I would imagine many of them conversions are still around.....

but then again, it IS/WAS Maryland with all the snow/salt/ICE/Rain RUST, so maybe not.....:gurney::crap:

 

[Belgian1979vette]

Regarding maintenance I don't think any brand can beat a vette. The same goes for the wide selection of aftermarket parts for the Chevy engines.

As for prices : yes the vette is expensive. Nonetheless the Ferrari is still a step up.

The thing is it is easy to find a F-car with reasonable miles that is in great shape. Restoring a vette gets expensive quite fast and in the end you will have paid as much as what a 348 costs.

I'm not so much in favor of the 355 as these seem to have some (expensive issues).

At first I was looking at a 1998 C5 convertible. The normal procedure I do (which I did with the C3 BTW) was to buy it, register it to get the paperwork on my name and then suspend the registration until the car is 25. In the mean time I would be doing repairs/restorations.

The car was prestine but the f$cking idiots in our local government decided to change the registration tax based on CO2, which in the case of a car like the vette ends up at € 10.500...........:twitch::twitch:

Same deal for Ferrari if it's before the age of 25, but happens that I saw a good 348 (1989)on the Dutch market.

The Dutch did play with different rules as well. The went from the age of 25 to (I think) 40 before the car is an oldtimer. This dropped prices of older cars all around in Holland.
I could have gone with a C4 of before 1989 but I don't like a C4 bodystyle.

If the guy selling will mail me the maintenancerecords and I can convince the wife, I will probably go ahead with it. That last barrier will be the hardest...