School bus construction...notice anything??

[mrvette]

A serious tragic accident happened here, some kid and several passengers slammed into the back of a school bus, most of the folks in the car were killed, the kids on the bus are fine....

but one thing they showed on TV all the time was the CAR, not the damn bus...but from the look of the car, that bus they refuse to show is one of them modern ones I seen recently around town,

For some stupid reason, the good old square backed lower bumper bus design of centuries has been altered, and they stuck the bumpers up in the air at windshield height, and a long strut/slant to the body/flooring down to behind the rear wheels....

So it seems some dumb assed lawyers are designing buses now, wondering if you all seen buses with that design in your region also.....

IF SO, an anyone explain what seems to be a patently dumb assed design change???

:shocking::ill:

 

[greg75vette]

We have some of the fancy buses around, but mostly the old style. I've been behind the old style a lot lately and the old buses have quite the bumper height as well. If I ever rear ended an old one, I would be headbutting the bumper myself. Of the new ones I've seen, the bumper seems to be actually be lower than the old ones, but I have never been behind one.

Now public transit buses have a nice low bumper. I would only half as likely to die :2nd:

 

[010752]

There is (was) a law here in Florida that limits the height of bumpers just for those reasons. Don't remember what it is exactly, but the cops used to nail the 4x4 guys with the big tires and lift kits.

Maybe the new bus bumpers don't comply. If the case, the lawyers will have fun.

 

[DWncchs]

I've never understood why so many drivers rear end school buses. They are much bigger than the average vehicle,they are a very visable YELLOW with CAUTION all over them and a big red STOP sign that pops out the side and in the state of Florida they even have a STROBE light on the top. They stop and they start and stop and start,how do you not know they are in front of you ? How the F___ do you run into a school bus ??? :bonkers:

 

[greg75vette]

 

[redvetracr]

that Jeep had to by flying..........

 

[C6Z51]

I've never understood why so many drivers rear end school buses. They are much bigger than the average vehicle,they are a very visable YELLOW with CAUTION all over them and a big red STOP sign that pops out the side and in the state of Florida they even have a STROBE light on the top. They stop and they start and stop and start,how do you not know they are in front of you ? How the F___ do you run into a school bus ??? :bonkers:

I agree with you 100%.

 

[mrvette]

I've never understood why so many drivers rear end school buses. They are much bigger than the average vehicle,they are a very visable YELLOW with CAUTION all over them and a big red STOP sign that pops out the side and in the state of Florida they even have a STROBE light on the top. They stop and they start and stop and start,how do you not know they are in front of you ? How the F___ do you run into a school bus ??? :bonkers:

I agree with you 100%.

Them strobe lights are useless, unless it's dark/very cloudy, even then the red/yellow are more prominent....

school busses stop all the time in odd spots, begging to get hit, laws of physics.....and statistics....

:shocking:

 

[DWncchs]

I've never understood why so many drivers rear end school buses. They are much bigger than the average vehicle,they are a very visable YELLOW with CAUTION all over them and a big red STOP sign that pops out the side and in the state of Florida they even have a STROBE light on the top. They stop and they start and stop and start,how do you not know they are in front of you ? How the F___ do you run into a school bus ??? :bonkers:

I agree with you 100%.

Them strobe lights are useless, unless it's dark/very cloudy, even then the red/yellow are more prominent....

school busses stop all the time in odd spots, begging to get hit, laws of physics.....and statistics....

:shocking:

They stop the same place and the same time 5 days a week and there is usually children walking around them. :shocking:
They probably angled up the back of the bus for the same reason they did RVs, to keep the back from dragging with the increased rear overhang coupled with shorter wheelbases for getting around tight turns.

 

[SmokinBBC]

that Jeep had to by flying..........

And that bumper is well below windshield height.

 

[mrvette]

that Jeep had to by flying..........

And that bumper is well below windshield height.

THAT particular one, yes....older? style...


the car on the local news was intact in the engine/hood location, the passenger comparment was totally destroyed....

most heavy big rigs have stops in back to stop run unders....should be laws for ALL trucks, and a school bus is nothing BUT a truck...

:beer:

 

[big2bird]

most heavy big rigs have stops in back to stop run unders....should be laws for ALL trucks, and a school bus is nothing BUT a truck...

:beer:

Gene, those "big rig" bumpers are just bare minimum law compliance. They snap off and cars go right under anyhow. Check with any H.P. in any state. They hate them.

 

[SmokinBBC]

Gene, Thomas Built Buses are right down the road from me. I see new ones headed out all the time. I don't recall seeing a raised rear bumper on those.

Here's a link to them.

http://www.thomasbus.com/bus-models/school/

 

[kwplot34]

No reason to blame it on the Bus, the fool in the other car should have been paying attention to the road.

 

[68L71]

Gene, Thomas Built Buses are right down the road from me. I see new ones headed out all the time. I don't recall seeing a raised rear bumper on those.

Here's a link to them.

http://www.thomasbus.com/bus-models/school/

Looks to me like the type c2 is what he is talking about, but it look like the rear is the same height and in the middle it is lower than the old style.

 

[BigBlockTank]

that Jeep had to by flying..........

Is that a H3 Hummer? kinda looks like it to me.

 

[greg75vette]

I think it's actually an H2 SUT.