So my Sunday sucked nuts.

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I've been driving the 240z a lot lately just because it's kind of fun and a lot cheaper than the vette. But it is a 40 year old car and I know the shocks haven't been replaced in more than 20 years (if ever) because it was parked out in the desert back in '92. So last week I ordered some KYBs to freshen up the handling a bit.

The Mrs. had to work on Sunday so I thought that would be a good day to tackle the project. I've done shocks before so I knew it shouldn't be too big a project, I figured 4-5 hours for all four shocks. I should even be able to have it back on the road in time to go to the club meeting if I wanted.

I jacked up the front of the car and put it on stands, started on the passenger side. Pulled everything apart so that I was down to the strut assembly. The way they work on the Datsuns is the shock is just an insert that drops into the strut tube and is held in place by a gland nut. I popped off the nut and gave the strut rod a couple whacks and out it came. Installed the new shock and put everything back together. So far I'm into it for about 1.5 hours. Not bad so far.

I move over to the driver side and pull that strut out. The gland nut was a little more stubborn but a 24" pipe wrench showed it who's boss. Now comes the ridiculous part. I start tapping the shock and nothing. Hmm, what to do now? I put the spring perch back on the top of the strut rod and bang some more. Still nothing. I shoot some PB Blaster in there and bang harder. Now all I'm doing is bending the spring perch. Time for a different approach. I throw the strut in the back of the truck and go over to a small industrial area down the street. I strap the strut end to a bollard and the rod end to my tow hitch. I jump in the truck and "pop"! I'm thinking cool, the shock should have popped out now. Nope, broke my strap. Come back home and soak it down with more PB Blaster. I grab a couple jacks and manage to fit them in between both spring perches, start jacking and all I'm doing is bending the perches. Holy hell! Next I go over to a friend's house and pick up a chain and a 2000# tow strap. I chain the strut to my tow hitch and strap the shock end to the tow hitch on his truck. He then proceeds to pull my truck backwards two feet. Now I really don't know what to do. I go back home and soak it some more. At this point I'm thinking heat is my friend. I don't have an acetylene torch set but I do have two of those small natural gas torch sets so I light them up. I reinstall the spring to provide some upward pressure and start heating the tube. I manage to burn through pretty much two new bottles and I can hear it pop every so often and catch it on fire a couple dozen times but still nothing. I finally pretty much give up when the seal on the shock explodes and sprays me with boiling hot oil. I was wearing plenty of clothing and safety glasses so no harm but at this point I'm pretty much thinking this strut is a total loss. Of course it's getting harder to find 40 year old parts so it looks like the car is more or less down until I can find someone parting one out. Just amazing that rust can be this powerful.
 
When you put the passenger side shock back together, did you spray the tube with oil and cover the new shock with grease???
Whoever put the driver side in obviously didn't do that .... :clobbered:

How about slicing the outer tube with a thin cutting wheel (Dremel?) so you can get the penetrating oil to where it's needed ??? -- I assume it's weldable material ....
 
Nope. But you can bet your ass the next time I have things apart I will be doing just that. Fortunately, being in the desert, I can probably go for years like this without a problem. All the more reason to think these are the original equipment shocks and have seen 20 years of rain and humidity before being parked out here.
 
Nope. But you can bet your ass the next time I have things apart I will be doing just that. Fortunately, being in the desert, I can probably go for years like this without a problem. All the more reason to think these are the original equipment shocks and have seen 20 years of rain and humidity before being parked out here.

A well placed explosive charge could probably separate it.
 
It would far safer next time, to go to work, and ask the wife to do it.:tomato:
 
A well placed explosive charge could probably separate it.
I now believe that may be the only way to persuade the shock to find a new home. Of course, I'm not sure what pressures the strut tube are rated for, but at this point I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see the tube split and the shock still firmly glued to the tube.
 
A well placed explosive charge could probably separate it.
I now believe that may be the only way to persuade the shock to find a new home. Of course, I'm not sure what pressures the strut tube are rated for, but at this point I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see the tube split and the shock still firmly glued to the tube.

I would think a pound of high yield explosives would do the trick.
 
Separate the two offending parts? Sure. Leave it so the strut tube is still usable? Thinking I wouldn't be so lucky.

Not real impressed with MacPherson strut design to begin with. And this one even less so. At some point in the future I am seriously considering a major redesign to get these things replaced. May not be much performance advantage to it, but it would be nice to just be able to walk into any parts store and ask for a strut from a 2000-something Honda/Nissan/Toyota instead of a 40+ year old car.
 
I once had an 86 honda civic (it was a free car) with a frozen alternator bolt, which is located very low on the motor. I took it to a local Pep-Boys knowing that they could only quote me the hourly rate for the job. I let them suffer with it, which they did. It cost me a total of $80.00 including the new alternator. No way I was gonna tackle that sucker in my driveway.:mobeer:
 
Update***

So now it's been over a week I've had this strut off. I've been spraying PB Blaster down inside the shock and strut assembly. This afternoon I grabbed a neighbor who's always up for some redneck antics. We chained the strut to his tow hitch and strapped it to mine, then he pulled the strut with his 3/4 ton truck. Still nothing. STILL!!! Except he pulled my truck back a couple feet.
So we both scratched our heads and figured maybe a mallet would help persuade it. He pulled as I tapped on the strut and still nothing. As a last ditch effort, I broke out the propane torches again. I fired both up and heated the strut tube as he pulled against it with the truck. One of my propane tanks expired so I was down to just one when I noticed that the shock was popped out about 1/2"! HOLY SHIT! Maybe? So I told him to yank on it and sure enough it popped out about a foot. One more yank and the fucking thing is finally out.
Now I'm just concerned that I've weakened the tube with the banging and heating. I'll be looking for a replacement but for the meantime this one is going back on. At least the car will be back up and running.
Pictures to follow.
 

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