Ethanol in Gasoline

73 Mike

73 Mike

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Kevin, you've got some splaining to do!

I've been driving across country with my family in a Saturn VUE pulling a 5X8 trailer containing all of the stuff that CA movers won't take ( a long list). Leaving CA, there were a lot of hills so I wasn't surprised when the fuel economy was terrible. When I got to Palm Springs, I filled up at a casino gas station. I then had one tank of pretty good economy. After that, it got poor again until I filled up in Albequerque at a place called Warrior. I had all kinds of nutty theories but then found this site:

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=OK

The gist is that the V6 is a little taxed with the fully loaded car and trailer and it can't stay in overdrive at highway speed with the up to 10% ethanol fuel. Now that I'm purposely avoiding these, I'm getting 30% more out of a tank of gas.

While this is an extreme example, it shocked me how much less power, and hence economy, these ethanol fuels produce and if I wasn't going through so many tanks, I never would have noticed something different and had a chance to figure out why.
 
Ethanol is the devil's curse in gasoline, and the .gov idiots that force that shit need be lined up and shot......friggin' EPA, hate them nazis.....

:crutches::ripoff:
 
73 Mike said:
Kevin, you've got some splaining to do!

I've been driving across country with my family in a Saturn VUE pulling a 5X8 trailer containing all of the stuff that CA movers won't take ( a long list). .
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??? what?? why??? lawnmowers?? small engines?? paint?? spray bombs??

:crutches::(
 
mrvette said:
73 Mike said:
Kevin, you've got some splaining to do!

I've been driving across country with my family in a Saturn VUE pulling a 5X8 trailer containing all of the stuff that CA movers won't take ( a long list). .
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??? what?? why??? lawnmowers?? small engines?? paint?? spray bombs??

:crutches::(
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No aerosols, fuels, tanks (even empty without a valve!), oils, paints, fertilizers... It goes on and on.
 
73 Mike said:
mrvette said:
73 Mike said:
Kevin, you've got some splaining to do!

I've been driving across country with my family in a Saturn VUE pulling a 5X8 trailer containing all of the stuff that CA movers won't take ( a long list). .
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??? what?? why??? lawnmowers?? small engines?? paint?? spray bombs??

:crutches::(
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No aerosols, fuels, tanks (even empty without a valve!), oils, paints, fertilizers... It goes on and on.
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Ca. maybe krazy, but some of that sounds Federal to me....wooden surprise me, anyway.....

no wonder we find tons of crap left behind in the tenants vacating property, tons of soap bottles, gas cans, oil cans, perfectly good shit, so I sweep it up and take it home....

:crutches::harhar: can run 100 bux over the cleanout price...and that's NET.....

:D
 
mrvette said:
73 Mike said:
Kevin, you've got some splaining to do!

I've been driving across country with my family in a Saturn VUE pulling a 5X8 trailer containing all of the stuff that CA movers won't take ( a long list). .
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??? what?? why??? lawnmowers?? small engines?? paint?? spray bombs??

:crutches::(
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My daughter and son in law just went through this moving from Alberta to Ontario the movers wouldn't take some of their things and they had to pack them in the car and move them. they left behind a propane tank because the movers wouldn't take it with the BBQ and they didn't have room for it
 
I was reading an article about a year ago regarding the efficiency of ethanol blended fuel and the conclusion was the same. ETHANOL SUCKS AND ROBS POWER resulting in poorer fuel economy.
 
DeeVeeEight said:
I was reading an article about a year ago regarding the efficiency of ethanol blended fuel and the conclusion was the same. ETHANOL SUCKS AND ROBS POWER resulting in poorer fuel economy.
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I have proved that one my own damn self, over the years, by changing brands, and station locations, and noted the changes....


mostly related to idle characteristics due to a bad CAM, another issue but I spent years on end over this car and found the ethanol problem is REAL, and even after swapping cams some years ago, I find the same thing on the ethanol....

BASTARDS!!!! ADM/Others on the IOWA corn lobby can go screw themselves....

CORN is a lousy food anyway, note that ever time I eat CORN, to comes out the same as it went in....

does THAT tell you something????:harhar::D:crutches:
 
They had gasohol in the midwest in the early 70s, didn't go over then either, but at least it was a choice.
 
010752 said:
They had gasohol in the midwest in the early 70s, didn't go over then either, but at least it was a choice.
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now (after the corn farmers lobby) paid off Congress we have no choice, did I say payoff? I meant made political campaign donations.
 
redvetracr said:
010752 said:
They had gasohol in the midwest in the early 70s, didn't go over then either, but at least it was a choice.
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now (after the corn farmers lobby) paid off Congress we have no choice, did I say payoff? I meant made political campaign donations.
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Damn crooked Do Mo Craps, note that IOWA is alone in voting D, out of most all the mid west farm states.....:suicide:
 
73 Mike said:
Kevin, you've got some splaining to do!

I've been driving across country with my family in a Saturn VUE pulling a 5X8 trailer containing all of the stuff that CA movers won't take ( a long list). Leaving CA, there were a lot of hills so I wasn't surprised when the fuel economy was terrible. When I got to Palm Springs, I filled up at a casino gas station. I then had one tank of pretty good economy. After that, it got poor again until I filled up in Albequerque at a place called Warrior. I had all kinds of nutty theories but then found this site:

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=OK

The gist is that the V6 is a little taxed with the fully loaded car and trailer and it can't stay in overdrive at highway speed with the up to 10% ethanol fuel. Now that I'm purposely avoiding these, I'm getting 30% more out of a tank of gas.

While this is an extreme example, it shocked me how much less power, and hence economy, these ethanol fuels produce and if I wasn't going through so many tanks, I never would have noticed something different and had a chance to figure out why.
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Which Kevin are you talking about:huh: I didn't do anything. I think.
 
kwplot34 said:
Which Kevin are you talking about:huh: I didn't do anything. I think.
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Kevin, you should know by now that I blame you for all things agricultural. Currently, I'm holding you accountable for ethanol in gas and high beef prices.

How's the crop look this year?
 
Cant blame the Ethanol on me this year. I did not plant any corn, just soy beans this year. As for the beef, the drought last year and the high cost to feed and water cattle drove that up. Plus a lot of farmers down sized their heard last year so they would not have to feed and water them.
The crops look great this year.
 
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kwplot34 said:
Cant blame the Ethanol on me this year. I did not plant any corn, just soy beans this year. As for the beef, the drought last year and the high cost to feed and water cattle drove that up. Plus a lot of farmers down sized their heard last year so they would not have to feed and water them.
The crops look great this year.
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Farming all depends on which way the wind blows.....commons sense 101, first year AG school, or maybe HS....really.....


:gurney::hissyfit:
 
mrvette said:
kwplot34 said:
Cant blame the Ethanol on me this year. I did not plant any corn, just soy beans this year. As for the beef, the drought last year and the high cost to feed and water cattle drove that up. Plus a lot of farmers down sized their heard last year so they would not have to feed and water them.
The crops look great this year.
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Farming all depends on which way the wind blows.....commons sense 101, first year AG school, or maybe HS....really.....


:gurney::hissyfit:
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LOL. there is way more to farming than you will ever know. it takes more than a high school diploma or a year in ag school to be successful at it.
 
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