12 killed 59 injured @ Batman movie

[denpo]

...The struggle between good and evil in men's hearts is as old as civilization. Sometimes, there is no reason. It just is.

I agree Bird, and that's one of the fundamental issues that's overlooked when there's talk of banning or legislating behavior. There are just bad people out there, and this chucklehead is one of them, maybe with a higher IQ, but bad none the less.

Guys, I beg to differ. Did you check you the video I posted, just only the first minute would and you'd get the idea.
It's about a little girl (6 years?) that tell remorsely to the interviewer that she would stab her parents if she had the opportunity.
Result of years of child abuse.
Turn out this little girl is now a healthy and balanced person, not without years of therapy.

So, my point is yes there is potentiality of evil in each of us, but cut social services, underfinance the educational system, prevent healthcare access to the poorest of us, and those guys won't be dozens, they'll be legions, whatever the country.
Sure this case may no be the best example, but I hope you get the point.
If you see the bad as inevitable, punishing seems the only answer.
Now see it as curable....

 

[68L71]

...The struggle between good and evil in men's hearts is as old as civilization. Sometimes, there is no reason. It just is.

I agree Bird, and that's one of the fundamental issues that's overlooked when there's talk of banning or legislating behavior. There are just bad people out there, and this chucklehead is one of them, maybe with a higher IQ, but bad none the less.

Guys, I beg to differ. Did you check you the video I posted, just only the first minute would and you'd get the idea.
It's about a little girl (6 years?) that tell remorsely to the interviewer that she would stab her parents if she had the opportunity.
Result of years of child abuse.
Turn out this little girl is now a healthy and balanced person, not without years of therapy.

So, my point is yes there is potentiality of evil in each of us, but cut social services, underfinance the educational system, prevent healthcare access to the poorest of us, and those guys won't be dozens, they'll be legions, whatever the country.
Sure this case may no be the best example, but I hope you get the point.
If you see the bad as inevitable, punishing seems the only answer.
Now see it as curable....

I hope you stay in Canada

 

[DeeVeeEight]

...The struggle between good and evil in men's hearts is as old as civilization. Sometimes, there is no reason. It just is.

I agree Bird, and that's one of the fundamental issues that's overlooked when there's talk of banning or legislating behavior. There are just bad people out there, and this chucklehead is one of them, maybe with a higher IQ, but bad none the less.

Guys, I beg to differ. Did you check you the video I posted, just only the first minute would and you'd get the idea.
It's about a little girl (6 years?) that tell remorsely to the interviewer that she would stab her parents if she had the opportunity.
Result of years of child abuse.
Turn out this little girl is now a healthy and balanced person, not without years of therapy.

So, my point is yes there is potentiality of evil in each of us, but cut social services, underfinance the educational system, prevent healthcare access to the poorest of us, and those guys won't be dozens, they'll be legions, whatever the country.
Sure this case may no be the best example, but I hope you get the point.
If you see the bad as inevitable, punishing seems the only answer.
Now see it as curable....

I hope you stay in Canada

ouch

 

[BBShark]

This is a sign of the times, not a tragedy like a flood or tornado. I don't know why we mix the two.

This guy is motivated by notariety. The costume, the Batman premeire, the careful planning, etc. YouTube, CNN, network news, they all have round the clock coverage. He got what he wanted. He was an insignificant nobody, now he is a celebrity and his legend will live on for years (in the news). He's certainly not the first one, look at the guy that shot John Lennon. He won't be the last unless we STOP giving these motherfuckers the attention they crave.

I'm with Gene, arrest them and fry 'em. No TV, no courtroom drama, no pictures, nothing. The next time you hear about the guy, he's dust.

That is the only way to combat the lure of celebrity that these nutjobs crave.

 

[denpo]

...The struggle between good and evil in men's hearts is as old as civilization. Sometimes, there is no reason. It just is.

I agree Bird, and that's one of the fundamental issues that's overlooked when there's talk of banning or legislating behavior. There are just bad people out there, and this chucklehead is one of them, maybe with a higher IQ, but bad none the less.

Guys, I beg to differ. Did you check you the video I posted, just only the first minute would and you'd get the idea.
It's about a little girl (6 years?) that tell remorsely to the interviewer that she would stab her parents if she had the opportunity.
Result of years of child abuse.
Turn out this little girl is now a healthy and balanced person, not without years of therapy.

So, my point is yes there is potentiality of evil in each of us, but cut social services, underfinance the educational system, prevent healthcare access to the poorest of us, and those guys won't be dozens, they'll be legions, whatever the country.
Sure this case may no be the best example, but I hope you get the point.
If you see the bad as inevitable, punishing seems the only answer.
Now see it as curable....

I hope you stay in Canada

ouch

No, he's absolutly right, I'm better off in NicePeopleLand, but he might not understand why.
68L71, I hope one day you'll have the opportunity to stay for an extended amount of time in Canada, or one of these so called "socialist" country, even if only to know better what your guts seems to hate so much.
I'm sure you'd have a great time.
Everybody has the right to post his opinion how short it is.

 

[pancake]

I agree Bird, and that's one of the fundamental issues that's overlooked when there's talk of banning or legislating behavior. There are just bad people out there, and this chucklehead is one of them, maybe with a higher IQ, but bad none the less.

Guys, I beg to differ. Did you check you the video I posted, just only the first minute would and you'd get the idea.
It's about a little girl (6 years?) that tell remorsely to the interviewer that she would stab her parents if she had the opportunity.
Result of years of child abuse.
Turn out this little girl is now a healthy and balanced person, not without years of therapy.

So, my point is yes there is potentiality of evil in each of us, but cut social services, underfinance the educational system, prevent healthcare access to the poorest of us, and those guys won't be dozens, they'll be legions, whatever the country.
Sure this case may no be the best example, but I hope you get the point.
If you see the bad as inevitable, punishing seems the only answer.
Now see it as curable....

I hope you stay in Canada

ouch

No, he's absolutly right, I'm better off in NicePeopleLand, but he might not understand why.
68L71, I hope one day you'll have the opportunity to stay for an extended amount of time in Canada, or one of these so called "socialist" country, even if only to know better what your guts seems to hate so much.
I'm sure you'd have a great time.
Everybody has the right to post his opinion how short it is.

There is something fundamentally wrong with making this guy out to be a victim. He is an assailant.. a cold blooded killer.. and deserves to be treated as such. He is not worth rehabilitating. Feed him to the pigs.

 

[Ralphy]

big2bird, it was my point that I did not clarify. When and where do we look to point blame? It seems too most often go to, blame the guns. Hollywood has played an instrumental part in society for many social issues. However they are rarely singled out. In fact they are most often praised. I'm not for pointing fingers, however when a group or political party wants to start a blame game. Maybe they need to look at themselves.

Ralphy

 

[denpo]

There is something fundamentally wrong with making this guy out to be a victim. He is an assailant.. a cold blooded killer.. and deserves to be treated as such. He is not worth rehabilitating. Feed him to the pigs.

Hold on, who said he was a victim? Surely not me.
All I say what : Don't rely too much on the notion of inherent bad in each human to explain how bad a situation can be.
That's it, not more.
I won't be crying on this guy's fate.
And I can't agree more with BBShark on media over coverage.

 

[pancake]

There is something fundamentally wrong with making this guy out to be a victim. He is an assailant.. a cold blooded killer.. and deserves to be treated as such. He is not worth rehabilitating. Feed him to the pigs.

Hold on, who said he was a victim? Surely not me.
All I say what : Don't rely too much on the notion of inherent bad in each human to explain how bad a situation can be.
That's it, not more.
I won't be crying on this guy's fate.
And I can't agree more with BBShark on media over coverage.

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I read victim in this sentence:

So, my point is yes there is potentiality of evil in each of us, but cut social services, underfinance the educational system, prevent healthcare access to the poorest of us, and those guys won't be dozens, they'll be legions, whatever the country.

On further review, maybe you're talking about zombies and not douche bags who shoot people in theaters...?

 

[denpo]

There is something fundamentally wrong with making this guy out to be a victim. He is an assailant.. a cold blooded killer.. and deserves to be treated as such. He is not worth rehabilitating. Feed him to the pigs.

Hold on, who said he was a victim? Surely not me.
All I say what : Don't rely too much on the notion of inherent bad in each human to explain how bad a situation can be.
That's it, not more.
I won't be crying on this guy's fate.
And I can't agree more with BBShark on media over coverage.

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I read victim in this sentence:

So, my point is yes there is potentiality of evil in each of us, but cut social services, underfinance the educational system, prevent healthcare access to the poorest of us, and those guys won't be dozens, they'll be legions, whatever the country.

On further review, maybe you're talking about zombies and not douche bags who shoot people in theaters...?

I don't know if I'd call him a DB, I've seen pic of him, those weird eyes, my bet he's a brilliantly adapted psychopath.
So yeah, I was probably talking about zombies, and the fact that zombies breed psychopaths.

Concerning this particular guy, yeah, with quite a stretch he's somehow an victim, but that was not what I was meaning.

 

[Ralphy]

Current Worldwide Homicide/Murder Rate
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454

Murder rate per 100,000

USA 5.22
Canada 1.67
Mexico 11.59
Jamaica 59.5
Average 9.63

 

[denpo]

Current Worldwide Homicide/Murder Rate
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454

Murder rate per 100,000

USA 5.22
Canada 1.67
Mexico 11.59
Jamaica 59.5
Average 9.63

That site it fascinating, thanks.
This one scares the shit out of me :
http://chartsbin.com/view/eqq (even if I got serious doubts about China's datas)

 

[damoroso]

Denpo,

I agree with you that there are some people who should be rehabilitated and need help, like that little girl in the video you posted. However, there are those other nut jobs who are beyond help and have no redeeming quality left for society, like this wackado. We should help those who can be, BEFORE they commit acts like this. Once they've gone that far, game over, and I'd be a volunteer to be on the firing squad.

Good discussion guys, seems two points are being made. 1) We can agree there's nut jobs out there, some can and should be helped and others should just be ended and 2) more gun control and restrictions aren't the answer.

Still sucks for the victums, their families and community, and I'm finally finishing my CC this week, so's my wife.

 

[JPhil]

I got this via e-mail at work today....

No comment.




http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21142159/gun-sales-up-since-tragedy

"If you are interest in taking a class that qualifies for your permit to carry concealed, this is a heck of a deal. I took this class from these folks myself and obtained my permit last year."

http://www.coloradohandgunsafety.com/gift.htm

 

[mrvette]

So far, my street is quiet, and I know all the neighbors on a first name basis....

and so don't even have a LOADED gun in the house, that shituation may change, as I"v been thinking of it a bit recently....

never did get a CCW permit.....maybe have to look into that also....

the main thing stopping me is, What weapon?, then where, since I wear T shirts and shorts all the time.....I suppose I should carry one in the Motor Home, but haven't yet....if I was to bother, the prime carry would be for alligators in the streams, in which case it would have to be the .357 Mag.....

then the issue of I go to a bank, liquor store, etc.....lotta places off limits, post office?? restaurant where drinks served?? I don't go bar hopping....

had my fill of that back ~50 years ago when beer mugs started flying at some Univ/Maryland bar frequented by the football guys, our table crawled out on our hands and knees to avoid the fights....I cut my left hand up....efff that shit, no more....

:cussing: