Earthquake ! ! ! !

The White House is reporting that the quake occurred along a formerly unknown fault line, which will hereafter be known as "Bush's Fault". :bounce:
 
4 trips to Ca. in my life, but years ago before I would have noticed that, interesting, and understandable...

but here in Florida most older homes, even like mine built in '72 the thing will withstand a hurry cain pretty good, but not a damn tree landing on it....
they are all masonry, but new construction like blew apart 20 years ago in Homestead, south of Miami....it was all frame shit, and here termites and rot are just ASStounding, eat entire wings off houses before they ever swarm...
and the amount of steel hammered into all wood homes to try stopping wind damage is really silly,

be nice if they knew how to fasten a roof down in this state though....

like my house, I cut in a 14x22' room addition about 11 years ago....
when dropping that 2' of roofing over hang off, it was cut, then I went to pry it up, one shove and the whole damn mess came off, 3 tiney little nails holding it on there....roofing nails into trusses was it....
then same thing on the atrium, when I tied that in maybe 8 year ago, same story....nothing holding the plywood to the trusses...

:gurney::shocking::pprrtt:

The vast majority of homes destroyed in Andrew only had the second story wood framing and up gone, the first floors were mostly cbs and they faired pretty well. Lannar built a lot of the damaged homes and used waferboard for wall sheathing. Most other houses had the trusses and roofs gone and the garage doors and windows were mostly the culprits. Really not that many all frame houses down there.
In isolated areas, I saw 4x4x3' footers for gas station canopies pulled out of the ground and thrown a block or two. One 2'x8" concrete tie beam with 6 #6 bars/hoops ripped completely out. Of course that had to be damage from not the wind alone, but what the wind carried.

South Florida has always had it's own building code and since the 50's has required tie straps over trusses. They go over the top of the top chord and are either poured into the tie beam or on frame const nailed to the plate and studs min of 3 #16 nails each. Years ago they were only on every other or third truss, but now must be on every one. A truss or rafter will break apart before those fail. Now with the newer codes, even with most reroofing, it all has to be updated including the roof sheathing fasteners.

Glad Irene will miss us, but hope it stays out to sea, earthquakes and hurricanes in 1 week is a little much.
 
Here Comes Irene ! ! ! !

The east coast is in for it pretty good this weekend. Parts of coastal NJ are being evacuated. From the Carolinas into New England tidal surge and flooding is a major concern. Locally we have had several days of heavy rain and the ground is already saturated, I hope that my sump pump is up to the task!
To those of you in our area - do what you can to prepare. My generator is full of fuel and I have some more in a can that I usually use for the yard equipment. The 'Vette and the Buick are in the garage and as long as the garage doors hold up all should be fine. I'll be securing the lawn furniture and anything else I can tie down too. We took down two large dead trees this summer so hopefully the healthy ones won't be a problem.
:rain:
with any luck it will turn out to be a non-event.:zzz:
 
The vast majority of homes destroyed in Andrew only had the second story wood framing and up gone, the first floors were mostly cbs and they faired pretty well. Lannar built a lot of the damaged homes and used waferboard for wall sheathing. Most other houses had the trusses and roofs gone and the garage doors and windows were mostly the culprits. Really not that many all frame houses down there.
In isolated areas, I saw 4x4x3' footers for gas station canopies pulled out of the ground and thrown a block or two. One 2'x8" concrete tie beam with 6 #6 bars/hoops ripped completely out. Of course that had to be damage from not the wind alone, but what the wind carried.

South Florida has always had it's own building code and since the 50's has required tie straps over trusses. They go over the top of the top chord and are either poured into the tie beam or on frame const nailed to the plate and studs min of 3 #16 nails each. Years ago they were only on every other or third truss, but now must be on every one. A truss or rafter will break apart before those fail. Now with the newer codes, even with most reroofing, it all has to be updated including the roof sheathing fasteners.

Glad Irene will miss us, but hope it stays out to sea, earthquakes and hurricanes in 1 week is a little much.

Those roof sheathing fasteners.....I would use 3/4 ply with 2"+ large head deck screws into the trusses.....them green things we see for hardiboard or bathroom walls....bet it's better than any clips....every foot along the perimeter and in the middle...

I would get some 2x6+ 8' and tie them up vertically, put a pad on it, and back the cars into at least 3 of them inside the garage door....that's you hurry cain brace right there....

:crutches:
 
FYI, In the West Indies, where hurricanes are pretty usual, most of the houses have large metal ring sticking out of the concrete foundation, they are directly welded to the metal reinforcement of the foundation.
In case of class 3 or 4 hurricane, the house is wrapped with big chains hooked to those rings.
 
A few trees down in the neighborhood, a little water in the basement, we were lucky. Many others did not fare as well.

Yeh, no shit, it's painful to look at those pix of Vermont and Upstate NY....shit, them folks got caught with ~17" of rain in about 5 microseconds time....

everything goes system shutdown in that crap....:hissyfit::crylol::censored::surrender:
 
Last I heard on the news was 45 dead from Irene....:twitch:

Damn thing was HUGE, wasn't the usual wind damage, just that 17" of rain, is not controllable.....and yeh, it's a large death toll, never would have guessed....

:hissyfit::surrender:
 

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