Let's talk about stroke vs dwell

I read that article and it was pretty good but it still didn't address exactly what I was saying. It was talking about conventional production engines built by every day street rodders and comparing the "shit to worth" ratio of the additional stroke. While still informative, I still am curious about the limitations. Like I said, and especially with a lot of sanctioning bodies, what if you have a size limit? For instance, if you are building an engine specifically for a class that has a displacement limit of 5.0L. Now, to me, it just makes sense that you would like the largest bore you could get for the reason Tim mentioned. And while the author mentioned piston speed and dwell, he was talking about relatively modest differences. What if you were to increase those differences noticably? So say with a 5.0L limit, you had a 4.030" bore and a 6" rod, what would the stroke length need to be to achieve 5.0L? Now, what would the dwell time and crank rotation degrees be comparable displacement engine with, say, a 3.75" bore with a 5.7" rod and 'x' stroke?

The 5.0 you speak of is well sorted back in the day. Trans Am racing had a 305 ci limit (5 litre).
With all the parts in bins at Chevy, they used a 4.020 bore and a 3.00 stroke. engine builders played with rods, but I do not know if any certain combination was dominant.
Mark Donahue in the Penske Z/28 was the dominant car in 1968 and 1969, but I have no idea what rod length they ran.
 
That's kind of where I was going. Those Chevy 302s were/are legendary. Of course, there's always the old Indy cars. Up until the late 60's/early 70's there were quite a few modified production engines running at the Brickyard.
 
Not Fast Enough?

Since the best example of longer rod/stroke ratio is F1, I'm wondering if any pushrod engine turns enough rpm to test?
Modern sportbikes turn 15-16K rpm w/13-1 cr. What is their rod/stroke ratio?
I'm thinking that the few extra degrees of dwell at TDC might only make a diff at extreme rpm when proper ign is on the edge?
The theory is there, maybe ours is not the best test example?
Just my SWAG. lol

R
 

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