Mental Masturbators

TV/Jim, I totally agree with your last two posts, and believe me, it's much worse than you think....

not just idiots, but drug fried brain useless idiots that will NEVER be anything, no matter HOW many degrees the little bastards have....

my 54? y/o nephew who got drug fried in the early 70's....and still lives with my sister, his mom....she is 78 now....

that kid couldn't even catch fish as a first mate on a offshore boat....
that is totally true, and demonstrated....

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. Have you seen some of the MORONS who are college grads? There is NO WAY that these people, who can't spell, read or write should have a college degree. The colleges are pumping them out by the thousands and they have no choice. .

Well at least its a college degree. It takes 4 years to get through. The kids that i see around me dream of being landscapers. They're just too lazy to even attempt college. They want to drive around in a truck all day and wack their pud. These are middle class and upper class kids which scares the hell out of me. The boys are the worst. Notice how many women professionals we have now? The boys end up being grunts. LOSERS

20 years from now, all the doctors, lawyers, engineers and other professionals are going to be foreigners. Chinese and Indians yada yada yada.


20 years? Where have you been? It's here already.
 
well here's my thoughts:
Everybody thinks it's so important for everybody to get a college education and become a professional whatever. That's all fine & dandy but----we have lost sight of the basics behind all this.
OK Mr. Aerospace Engineer you have designed a system to take men into orbit and keep them alive. But could you do that without your computer? And just who built that computer--some low wage person on an assembly line. If they don't do their job right, where are you? Nowhere. By the same token, where do you work? In a building right? Who built that building? Framers. electricians, plumbers. We (I'm proud to be a plumber, even though I don't make my living at it anymore) provide you with an environment that is safe, strong & secure for you to live & work in. If the heavy equipment operator, the concrete truck driver, the formsetter, the framer, etcetera don't do a good job, you will have no place or tools to do your job. If you get typhoid or dysentery from unsanitary water & plumbing you ain't gonna be working, you're gonna be wishing you were dead. How do you get to work? do you drive a car? Well what about the factory line worker who builds your car, the highway construction worker out there in the hot cold windy rainy weather building the road, and the roughneck working the oil rig & the refinery worker & the truck driver who provides you with fuel to get to work?
Are these jobs worth any less respect than those of the high paid self righteous "engineer" (or whatever) who does whatever the fuck it is he does? Even digging a good ditch takes knowledge, skill & pride, and without a good ditch, the pipes which bring you water, fuel, gas, electricity, cannot operate as we have come to expect them to. And let's not forget the welders & foundry workers who make those pipes & connect them.
We cannot all be high paid "professionals" driving around in sports cars or sitting in big offices talking on phones or even little cubicles hunched over in front of computer screens all day. Somebody has to provide the basics that they need to operate. Are these jobs, these people, less important just because they don't have a bunch of letters following them?
Fuck I barely have a high school diploma but in the 30 years since I graduated I have taken more classes & gotten more experience than 90% of the "professionals" I have to deal with on a daily basis. Yet they look down on me because I am a 'worker'. Well fuck you, you fucking dumbass you couldn't survive for a month without the basics of life that people like me provide for you.
So just what is the priority here?
 
JPhil, I quite agree with you, but I would sub the word LAWYER for engineer, really....I can't name another occupation that is more in the way of common sense, I get along with engineering types a LOT easier than say philosophy majors, or ART majors....

Through the years I have found out that engineers are always job shopping just like tech types, project to project, even architects, same deal....

When I was a little kid, my father told this little tale....

A bunch of engineers/super's setting on a roadside, all arguing about just where to dig that drainage ditch, and so they couldn't have that lo spot full of water in the coming rain.....so the ditch digger knows they need that ditch DUG or loose time on the job effort....so he goes to work and DUG the damn thing....then they all condemn him for actually getting the work done, then the rains come and the ditch works, the land is dry, and they all go about doing whatEVER.....

I have a retarred Plumber/vette buddy up the road here, he told me a story once about some hotel they doing...you know, a building full of bathrooms....and some fool had the pipes drawn rong, not going to work for whatever reason...must have been DWV...anyway, he fixes the problem, drills a few holes in slabs, and hooks his shit up, and they gave him grief over it, so he calls the city inspector in, and shuts down the job for a few hours until the inspector reviews the job, and agrees with Herschel.....CASE CLOSED.....

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well here's my thoughts:
Everybody thinks it's so important for everybody to get a college education and become a professional whatever. That's all fine & dandy but----we have lost sight of the basics behind all this.
OK Mr. Aerospace Engineer you have designed a system to take men into orbit and keep them alive. But could you do that without your computer? And just who built that computer--some low wage person on an assembly line. If they don't do their job right, where are you? Nowhere. By the same token, where do you work? In a building right? Who built that building? Framers. electricians, plumbers. We (I'm proud to be a plumber, even though I don't make my living at it anymore) provide you with an environment that is safe, strong & secure for you to live & work in. If the heavy equipment operator, the concrete truck driver, the formsetter, the framer, etcetera don't do a good job, you will have no place or tools to do your job. If you get typhoid or dysentery from unsanitary water & plumbing you ain't gonna be working, you're gonna be wishing you were dead. How do you get to work? do you drive a car? Well what about the factory line worker who builds your car, the highway construction worker out there in the hot cold windy rainy weather building the road, and the roughneck working the oil rig & the refinery worker & the truck driver who provides you with fuel to get to work?
Are these jobs worth any less respect than those of the high paid self righteous "engineer" (or whatever) who does whatever the fuck it is he does? Even digging a good ditch takes knowledge, skill & pride, and without a good ditch, the pipes which bring you water, fuel, gas, electricity, cannot operate as we have come to expect them to. And let's not forget the welders & foundry workers who make those pipes & connect them.
We cannot all be high paid "professionals" driving around in sports cars or sitting in big offices talking on phones or even little cubicles hunched over in front of computer screens all day. Somebody has to provide the basics that they need to operate. Are these jobs, these people, less important just because they don't have a bunch of letters following them?
Fuck I barely have a high school diploma but in the 30 years since I graduated I have taken more classes & gotten more experience than 90% of the "professionals" I have to deal with on a daily basis. Yet they look down on me because I am a 'worker'. Well fuck you, you fucking dumbass you couldn't survive for a month without the basics of life that people like me provide for you.
So just what is the priority here?


Damn, I think i hear one of those country songs playing in the background.

Why the hell would you guys not want your kids to be professionals. I just don't get it. You proved my point to a T. If you have this attitude your kids aren't going to put in the extreme amount of work it takes to get a degree. They might go in and party for the first semester and flunk out, then have to flip through the yellow pages to see what landscape companies need grunts.

Thinking about this some more. Isn't this "working class pride" exactly like no child left behind? Everybody is as important and great as anybody else. It doesn't matter what the hell you do.

I'm sorry Phil and i don't want to ruin our friendship over this but you know i always speak my mind and damn the consequences.
But a friggin Plumber or Electrician is not as important to the world as a guy with a Phd working on a cure for cancer.

The trades have guys like you to check their work. There are some areas of engineering where there are only a small number of people who know enough to provide any check and balances. The technology is just moving too quickly. So yes, these positions are extremely critical and more important to the world than a guy sweating pipes.

I feel bad saying this but, it's how i feel and it's true.
 
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Actually Jim, I got tired half-way through writing that and neglected a major point---Yes we need engineers, but we also need plumbers & factory workers. And while plumbing is not rocket science, it still takes a lot of knowledge & skill to do it right. It is an honorable & important profession, but the trades are not as glamorous as college in the public eye.
What I'm saying is don't dismiss trades & blue collar labor. If anything, work to bring back the respect & wage earning capabilities they deserve, or we will become (even moreso than now) a nation of soft bellied "elites" dependent on immigrants & idiots for our basic needs. Which will only hasten our downfall.


"But a friggin Plumber or Electrician is not as important to the world as a guy with a Phd working on a cure for cancer."

Now there I must disagree, Jim.
"Clean water in, dirty water out" is a very basic requirement for civilization. If you don't have that, you cannot maintain a society of any size which is needed to support 'thinkers'. Man lived for a million years years without electric lights & powered tools, but a man cannot live a month without clean water in, dirty water out.
Yes it is the engineers who design these systems, but it is the plumber who installs it & maintains it on a daily basis. When your potable water system gets contaminated by sewage, that's pretty damn important.
(I'm just using plumbers & engineers here as examples--although I feel very strongly about the clean water thing.)
 
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"I can see Russia from my house."

No,thats just a building that looks like Russian architecture at Disney Land.:amused:

Do you mean to say Russians really don't have big ears and a tail.
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