SuperBuickGuy
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back to this... goal is get close enough that if I have questions that I can get them answered at SEMA.
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SuperBuickGuy
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because the first step is always, take it further apart
time to pull the radiator (the hood wasn't a lot of fun by myself...)
there will be re-engineering - this bar causes cooling issues because it blocks the normal outlet port
red light, it works
and the crank trigger/wheel is in place
looks like alignment is my next trick
that said, it wasn't that great to begin with
time to pull the radiator (the hood wasn't a lot of fun by myself...)
there will be re-engineering - this bar causes cooling issues because it blocks the normal outlet port
red light, it works
and the crank trigger/wheel is in place
looks like alignment is my next trick
that said, it wasn't that great to begin with
bobs77vet
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do you use spacers to get them aligned?
Belt alignment or frontend?
SuperBuickGuy
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belt... the steering alignment is fantastic .. that said, this could be better for a number of reasons that will be clear as I go on... that cross bar is in the wrong place; also need to tie the upper arms together... I'm also seriously considering going to an electric water pump. I don't have a lot of trouble with heat at WOT but waiting for the next round of the autox...
time to refit the Corvette radiator. well, the C3 Corvette radiator, the last was from a Z06 and it wasn't enough....
ain't going to win any award for the engine compartment... eff em.
I've spent WAY too much time on this.... there isn't a great spot and this has issues with its closeness to the alternator... but if I have to shield it, oh well... see the comment about show portion of life
that said, I have a lot of respect for a clean engine bay builder... but not enough to spend another year or two on this
first is build brackets
then tack them to the top of the frame... need to finish weld and paint... but time to move on
and the regulator is installed
bobs77vet
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those look like really beefy coil packs
SuperBuickGuy
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they've got individual computers and cooling fins for them
the $400 plug
FAST doesn't include the other half of this plug with their kit.... fyi.
reality is it's about $90 ($10 for plug, $70 for "should work" crimper, plus tax and transport).... but still, a little frustrating if you don't know
the $400 plug
FAST doesn't include the other half of this plug with their kit.... fyi.
reality is it's about $90 ($10 for plug, $70 for "should work" crimper, plus tax and transport).... but still, a little frustrating if you don't know
I don't know how much I have invested in wire crimp tools. Some useful, some not.
SuperBuickGuy
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more wiring pictures
the mess
now looking better
details
sometimes the cheapest tool works best
I still have a lot to hook up but it's getting there
the mess
now looking better
details
sometimes the cheapest tool works best
I still have a lot to hook up but it's getting there
SuperBuickGuy
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Going to SEMA.... be back to this in a week or so. I'll simulcast my photoblog on the General discussion area.
SuperBuickGuy
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more wiring... think I need yet another plug... this is getting ridiculous
instructions not clear, saved, though, by Youtube
this plug is the one that you need to hook the coils up to... it's on the computer - not engine compartment. Makes sense, but the instructions do not
add to complexity that some things were labeled and these were labeled backwards
the back of the plug, you need to remove most of these white plugs
and then tap the black and yellow wires from both plugs to this wire...
instructions not clear, saved, though, by Youtube
this plug is the one that you need to hook the coils up to... it's on the computer - not engine compartment. Makes sense, but the instructions do not
add to complexity that some things were labeled and these were labeled backwards
the back of the plug, you need to remove most of these white plugs
and then tap the black and yellow wires from both plugs to this wire...
My main problem with Holley is they have the weirdest software architecture for any product I haver ever used. 6 different ways to save a file without acknowlegement of saving to ECU or computer or both. Key cycling for some unknown reason used to set parameters, etc.
Maybe if they would explain what the objective of these things are, it would be a little more clear. Or, make it work like ALL software works.
Maybe if they would explain what the objective of these things are, it would be a little more clear. Or, make it work like ALL software works.
bobs77vet
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it confuses me just looking at it
Maybe I just have a learning disability but I have a hard time understanding instructions for something unless I understand what it does and why I am doing it.
SuperBuickGuy
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had a similar conversation with the guy who turns the wrenches on Big Red Itoday)... but, being able to run 12:1 compression on a street BBC and only use 92 octane....
the other benefit is the smack down when I do get it running right against the LS powered rigs....
and for those who don't know, you know how Wayne's world when they say "we're not worthy" to Alice Cooper, that times a billion. Big Red IS the car that set me to dreaming what is now the PF2.
the other benefit is the smack down when I do get it running right against the LS powered rigs....
and for those who don't know, you know how Wayne's world when they say "we're not worthy" to Alice Cooper, that times a billion. Big Red IS the car that set me to dreaming what is now the PF2.
SuperBuickGuy
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it's not magic on a short stroke. heck, GM was doing it with points. Static compression is just one measure of the motor, not just that but gear ratio, transmission type and weight also are influencers as to whether or not it can be done.
is the planned 555 going to be that much? I don't know yet, but there's a lot of math and working with wizards before I commit to any hard parts. I don't even know if it's possible with a stock block.... 555 was the suggestion from Big Red's mechanic - now comes the hardest part to see what it takes to do this. As an aside in that, HRM did a 540 build where they made 700 hp.... and they've also made 700 hp out of a 454 motorhome motor.... to me, I'd be solidly disappointed to build 100 more cubic inches for the same hp.... especially given the costly parts to make the 2nd happen
the funnest part of all of this is that it makes the TKX (trans) a very expensive fuse - so any build is going to look at the 10k cost for a new trans.... point being - this is something that takes years to save for and execute.... so this is just bench racing for now.
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rtj
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If you want to delay the 10k transmission, keep watching FB marketplace. I see a continuous stream of new/nearly new autogear m22 or m23 supercase transmissions. 2500-4000 depending on whether they have a long shifter. Supposedly good for 700hp.
gforce transmissions are up nearly 50%, which is kind of depressing.
edit: Autogears site is down, but their FB page is active. This has reviews from 2022, but a good price for clutchless.
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gforce transmissions are up nearly 50%, which is kind of depressing.
edit: Autogears site is down, but their FB page is active. This has reviews from 2022, but a good price for clutchless.
RACING Muncie Slick Shift Clutch-less Super Duty M23 Upgraded Ultra Case 4-speed Drag Racing Rock-Crusher. SALE EXTENDED!!! - Muncie 4 Speed Transmissions And Rebuild Kits
Just Released. Yes clutch-less shifting. Severe Duty Slick Shift Clutch-less M23 Upgraded Ultra Case feature enlarged front and rear steel ‘thrust button’ case assembled modular countershaft clusters with ground drive and gears, unit cage needle bearings, integral countershaft spacer tube and...
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SuperBuickGuy
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I know so little about them.... that said, my plate is full this year - so I can spend ample time researching them. I like to save money, but my experience on saving money is I never do. Most times it's painful the amount over what I'd have spent if I'd just started with manufacturer.... trying to get wise while getting old....If you want to delay the 10k transmission, keep watching FB marketplace. I see a continuous stream of new/nearly new autogear m22 or m23 supercase transmissions. 2500-4000 depending on whether they have a long shifter. Supposedly good for 700hp.
gforce transmissions are up nearly 50%, which is kind of depressing.
edit: Autogears site is down, but their FB page is active. This has reviews from 2022, but a good price for clutchless.
RACING Muncie Slick Shift Clutch-less Super Duty M23 Upgraded Ultra Case 4-speed Drag Racing Rock-Crusher. SALE EXTENDED!!! - Muncie 4 Speed Transmissions And Rebuild Kits
Just Released. Yes clutch-less shifting. Severe Duty Slick Shift Clutch-less M23 Upgraded Ultra Case feature enlarged front and rear steel ‘thrust button’ case assembled modular countershaft clusters with ground drive and gears, unit cage needle bearings, integral countershaft spacer tube and...
rtj
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I hear you.
Well, I bought one of their m22’s in 2004 and drove the car around Orlando for 10 years. Only 500hp, but 4:56 and 4:11 gears with wide tires with no issues. But, with their website shut down there may be business issues.
The place mfain bought his sequential sells gforce, and some of their prices shot up. Like every thing else I guess.
If this clutchess is still available I might be tempted.
Well, I bought one of their m22’s in 2004 and drove the car around Orlando for 10 years. Only 500hp, but 4:56 and 4:11 gears with wide tires with no issues. But, with their website shut down there may be business issues.
The place mfain bought his sequential sells gforce, and some of their prices shot up. Like every thing else I guess.
If this clutchess is still available I might be tempted.
