WHY side pipes?

It's truly rediculous and pitiful that this crap thread is the most-viewed "technical" thread on this Forum. You guys need to go work on your neighbor's Mustang in your spare time so you have something better to do. :bonkers:

Lars
 
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I can take some more pics tomorrow for you,but they will have to be taken in my garage,to much snow in front of garage door right now :( I got them from Jet Hot a couple months back.

Kevin
 
Is this a trick question?

Why sidepipes

HHHMMMMM let me count the ways

http://www.oosoez.com/dr-r-web/cover-shoot69.mpg Even my wife likes them.

http://www.oosoez.com/dr-r-web/3x2.mpg I can even make it sound like an automatic.

http://www.oosoez.com/dr-r-movies/komotion.mpg 67 KO-MOTION L-88 what a freakin cam behind these pipes. Coincidentally the same weekend I got this video of KO-MOTION, I was invited to a fellows home in NH for a tuning session with Lars, but I had already committed to go to this other event in LI. I would like to have gone and learned more about his expertise and tips. Perhaps when the NE tour is again, I will be able to attend.

I’m mesmerized when I hear this side pipe band at the track. My kinda music. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf_cyIp1Kj0[/ame]
I’m on an octane high when near these side pipes at the track. Sebring really does smell that good in the paddock.[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcndthGvmqU[/ame]
You just don’t get those flames from standard mufflers. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8LzIVon2w[/ame]

Next summer I’m going to make a good video of my 69 with side pipes. The miniature ones from my old sony don't do sidepipes justice. I put NOS 65-67 Corvette style chambered side pipes on this one. Had to slightly elongate the keyhole slot in the frame and trim the rearmost chrome piece that covers the chrome tip because the curved chrome tip of the 65-67 side pipes extends farther back, whereas the 69 rectangular tip is angled down differently. Nobody ever even notices. But if you listen to the same Corvette with stock 69 reverse flow pipes and 65-67 chambered pipes, I can tell the difference.
Does that make this technical enough? :D
 
lars said:
It's truly rediculous and pitiful that this crap thread is the most-viewed "technical" thread on this Forum. You guys need to go work on your neighbor's Mustang in your spare time so you have something better to do. :bonkers:

Lars
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People like to listen to vroom.
 
After all the posts on this thread there still has not been one technical answer as to why. Cool is not too technical of a term.

The question was intended to find out the benefits of running side pipes vs rear exit exhaust.

Is the ground clearence maximised with the exhaust exiting behind the front wheel?
That was what I thought the answer would most likely be.
Yet no one offered any reason for them except race cars use them and they look cool and sound cool.

I am still waiting to find out "why side pipes".

When I start my C3 wide body LS I want to have a plan in place on the direction all the major components will be headed.
Exhaust is one of those items that on that list.

I am new to the C3 world and am trying to learn , so I ask questions.
The questions are for knowledge, not to offend someone that has their car set up a certain way.
Its your car, do what you wish with it, I just wonder why was it done that way.
I am sure many will not like my C3 when completed, but I will and that is what matters.
To each his own!
 
Ozzy said:
After all the posts on this thread there still has not been one technical answer as to why. Cool is not too technical of a term.

The question was intended to find out the benefits of running side pipes vs rear exit exhaust.

Is the ground clearence maximised with the exhaust exiting behind the front wheel?
That was what I thought the answer would most likely be.
Yet no one offered any reason for them except race cars use them and they look cool and sound cool.

I am still waiting to find out "why side pipes".
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1)Added ground clearance
2)Less restrictive
3)Less cabin heat
 
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big2bird said:
Ozzy said:
After all the posts on this thread there still has not been one technical answer as to why. Cool is not too technical of a term.

The question was intended to find out the benefits of running side pipes vs rear exit exhaust.

Is the ground clearence maximised with the exhaust exiting behind the front wheel?
That was what I thought the answer would most likely be.
Yet no one offered any reason for them except race cars use them and they look cool and sound cool.

I am still waiting to find out "why side pipes".
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1)Added ground clearance
2)Less restrictive
3)Less cabin heat
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4. Increased self-confidence
:rofl:
 
For what it's worth I just got a respose from Blaine at Paragon explaining that all of their sidepipes were based on the factory 69 equipment. That at least gives me a starting point although he didn't metion what the manifold arrangement was.

Good of them to respond!:friends:
 
I guess you could ask the Chevy styling department. They designed the factory side pipes in the 60's for the corvettes. My guess they where emulating racing exhaust for that period. Then they caught the eyes of aftermarket exhaust companies. Real good marketing. Why drag pipes on a Harley? Hundreds of arguments both ways. I've got one with side pipes, one without. I like both.. Don't think you will find a tech answer.

The Grand sport a factory built racer had them. 377cid small block with Weber side-draft carburetors , 550hp at 6400rpm. Right strong for 63'

I remember the looks of lake pipes,, man I thought that was great looking back in the 60's. The ones with the three caps
 
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Ozzy said:
After all the posts on this thread there still has not been one technical answer as to why. Cool is not too technical of a term.

The question was intended to find out the benefits of running side pipes vs rear exit exhaust.

Is the ground clearence maximised with the exhaust exiting behind the front wheel?
That was what I thought the answer would most likely be.
Yet no one offered any reason for them except race cars use them and they look cool and sound cool.

I am still waiting to find out "why side pipes".

When I start my C3 wide body LS I want to have a plan in place on the direction all the major components will be headed.
Exhaust is one of those items that on that list.

I am new to the C3 world and am trying to learn , so I ask questions.
The questions are for knowledge, not to offend someone that has their car set up a certain way.
Its your car, do what you wish with it, I just wonder why was it done that way.
I am sure many will not like my C3 when completed, but I will and that is what matters.
To each his own!
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Maybe you should go and read this thread from the begining. All of your questions are answered a couple of times. Or maybe you should just have some more beer and then post [like someone else]. :crylol:
 
00fxd said:
Ozzy said:
After all the posts on this thread there still has not been one technical answer as to why. Cool is not too technical of a term.

The question was intended to find out the benefits of running side pipes vs rear exit exhaust.

Is the ground clearence maximised with the exhaust exiting behind the front wheel?
That was what I thought the answer would most likely be.
Yet no one offered any reason for them except race cars use them and they look cool and sound cool.

I am still waiting to find out "why side pipes".

When I start my C3 wide body LS I want to have a plan in place on the direction all the major components will be headed.
Exhaust is one of those items that on that list.

I am new to the C3 world and am trying to learn , so I ask questions.
The questions are for knowledge, not to offend someone that has their car set up a certain way.
Its your car, do what you wish with it, I just wonder why was it done that way.
I am sure many will not like my C3 when completed, but I will and that is what matters.
To each his own!
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Maybe you should go and read this thread from the begining. All of your questions are answered a couple of times. Or maybe you should just have some more beer and then post [like someone else]. :crylol:
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I dont' drink. Even after rereading all the posts no one has stated the why's of their statements.

ie. More ground clearence. Compared to ? OEM system, 3" system, 1 7/8 headers, ??

I hate the trial and error $ystem.
I try to learn from others.
Sorry I don't measure up to the standards of some on this board.
 
This is easier than an 8 page thread might have you think. First, they are less restrictive than a typical under car OEM exhaust system (some side pipes were OEM). Second, they do tend to increase ground clearance, but just a bit and as they're less restrictive than a typical OEM system they can increase performance over the standard type of system. But that's just for the pipes. You can feed them with different headers of different sizes, and depending on your engine build they may or may not have a noticeable effect on performance over pipes that are under the car. I'd suspect you wouldn't notice any difference in performance in the seat of your pants over a quality under car system that was 2.5-3 inch out the back with the same size headers. But it would be louder with side pipes, if for no other reason that because the exhaust is exiting right behind your head.

But mostly I think people have them because they want them. They like the way they look and sound. It's really personal choice. Personally, I love the look of the OEM pipes with the covers that looked like they were molded into the rocker panels. Would love a set for my car, but damn, they're expensive. This is like asking what the best color for a vette is.
 
There was no intention to insult you ozzy, I don't drink either. I was referring to one with the big head that does and spends as much time talking about it. A personal thing.
I will re-iterate. I believe your question about sidepipes has been thoroughly answered with various opinions in this thread.
 
big2bird said:
lars said:
It's truly rediculous and pitiful that this crap thread is the most-viewed "technical" thread on this Forum. You guys need to go work on your neighbor's Mustang in your spare time so you have something better to do. :bonkers:

Lars
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Here is CF's most viewed tech thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-tech-performance/290174-how-old-is-the-average-c3-owner.html
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I guess a "why sidepipes" thread is less technical than a "what's the average age of a Vette owner". I guess I'll go work on my Mustang :huh2::huh2::huh2:
 
What I said in May, I'm going fishing:fishing::fishing: I smell fish with this thread..
 
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On one hand I kinda concur-re, there are many threads on some Corvette [and other automotive] forums that are pretty juvenile and surprisingly basic not to mention redundant.
I choose to not participate.
Thats why I prefer this forum, for the most part it's usually a bit more advanced.
As an automotive enthusiast I like [love] all North American V8 Muscle and Pony cars. And most street rods.
I think I'll go and drive around in my wifes pristine '95 Mustang GT.
 
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