Obama-Anyone know if this is true?

[big2bird]

Our 60's hippy dippy welfare crap is what makes the drug cartels, when we stop with that shit, the cartels will have a mortal wound......and that all amounts to about 40% of the fed.gov budget.....:wink:

Where do you get this crap? I have known/met drug users before. They all had jobs. Hollywood is full of money and drugs. They don't get it from welfare.

Wow you haven't seen the black/white trash/what ever else houses with tons of kids no working adult and plenty of drugs and booze. Think for a second that isn't funded by the gov? It is a sad situation, and is rampant all over the country. Drugs should be legal and welfare needs to be changed drastically.

Yes I have, and I agree with you. I don't have my head in the sand. I just have an open mind.

 

[68L71]

Our 60's hippy dippy welfare crap is what makes the drug cartels, when we stop with that shit, the cartels will have a mortal wound......and that all amounts to about 40% of the fed.gov budget.....:wink:

Where do you get this crap? I have known/met drug users before. They all had jobs. Hollywood is full of money and drugs. They don't get it from welfare.

Well, your proximity to Hollywood makes their issues seem larger but I thinking more of the vast inner cities with 70% of the population on the .gov dole one way or another, and not talking of SS either, but AFDC, EBT, sect8, just to name the 3 biggies, .....they don't have to work, so they lay around knocking out babies for more money and get the rent covered, and what's that old saying.....something about idle hands/minds? and devil's workshop?? and WE paying for it.....all that bullshit Kennedy crap that Johnson got through the congress on a sympathy vote after '63.....

:huh2::suspicious:

On this I agree. Just one more good intention corrupted out of context.

don't judge a law by its perceived intention, rather by the outcome or effectiveness

 

[mrvette]

Our 60's hippy dippy welfare crap is what makes the drug cartels, when we stop with that shit, the cartels will have a mortal wound......and that all amounts to about 40% of the fed.gov budget.....:wink:

Where do you get this crap? I have known/met drug users before. They all had jobs. Hollywood is full of money and drugs. They don't get it from welfare.

Well, your proximity to Hollywood makes their issues seem larger but I thinking more of the vast inner cities with 70% of the population on the .gov dole one way or another, and not talking of SS either, but AFDC, EBT, sect8, just to name the 3 biggies, .....they don't have to work, so they lay around knocking out babies for more money and get the rent covered, and what's that old saying.....something about idle hands/minds? and devil's workshop?? and WE paying for it.....all that bullshit Kennedy crap that Johnson got through the congress on a sympathy vote after '63.....

:huh2::suspicious:

On this I agree. Just one more good intention corrupted out of context.

don't judge a law by its perceived intention, rather by the outcome or effectiveness

I agree that all those 'illegal drugs' should be legal, and regulated like any other.....it's a no win ballgame, the crap exists, so to quit with the 'war' and eliminate the welfare, and tax the now legal drugs.....but demand will go down to almost nothing, because everyone has to WORK for food/housing/etc....no time for drugs....:stirpot:

 

[big2bird]

I agree that all those 'illegal drugs' should be legal, and regulated like any other.....it's a no win ballgame, the crap exists, so to quit with the 'war' and eliminate the welfare, and tax the now legal drugs.....but demand will go down to almost nothing, because everyone has to WORK for food/housing/etc....no time for drugs....:stirpot:

40 years has passed since Nixon declared the war on drugs. 1 trillion dollars later, it is unchanged. Mexico Cartels rule that country, and all the South American countries like Columbia nd Peru depend on it.
Regulating and producing it here would end the senseless violence there, and create jobs/taxes here.
I am afraid it's just a winless war, worse than Viet Nam.

 

[BBShark]

40 years has passed since Nixon declared the war on drugs. 1 trillion dollars later, it is unchanged. Mexico Cartels rule that country, and all the South American countries like Columbia nd Peru depend on it.
Regulating and producing it here would end the senseless violence there, and create jobs/taxes here.
I am afraid it's just a winless war, worse than Viet Nam.

LBJ's "War on Poverty" another loser. 15 trillion dolars later, there are the same percentage of poor as now (1964 vs. 2012).

You would think that we would learn from our failures.

 

[big2bird]

40 years has passed since Nixon declared the war on drugs. 1 trillion dollars later, it is unchanged. Mexico Cartels rule that country, and all the South American countries like Columbia nd Peru depend on it.
Regulating and producing it here would end the senseless violence there, and create jobs/taxes here.
I am afraid it's just a winless war, worse than Viet Nam.

LBJ's "War on Poverty" another loser. 15 trillion dolars later, there are the same percentage of poor as now (1964 vs. 2012).

You would think that we would learn from our failures.

Nope. One thing Gene is correct about. Once we form a new gov. program/division/department, it's hard to kill it.

 

[mrvette]

40 years has passed since Nixon declared the war on drugs. 1 trillion dollars later, it is unchanged. Mexico Cartels rule that country, and all the South American countries like Columbia nd Peru depend on it.
Regulating and producing it here would end the senseless violence there, and create jobs/taxes here.
I am afraid it's just a winless war, worse than Viet Nam.

LBJ's "War on Poverty" another loser. 15 trillion dolars later, there are the same percentage of poor as now (1964 vs. 2012).

You would think that we would learn from our failures.

Nope. One thing Gene is correct about. Once we form a new gov. program/division/department, it's hard to kill it.

Why in hell you all think I want a wholesale slaughter of Fed.gov departments for?? AND their cushy retirement plans?? WE have to save the nation, that town is STUPID out of control.....gets down to guns and pitchforks, so be IT, but it simply has to happen.....unless.....


WE the PEOPLE REPUDIATE the debt.....GRAB ALL the gold bullion/ingots on our shores, use it for backing new currency, change the name from buck to fuck, as in we not messing around anymore.....

WTF the rest of the world going to DO?? nothing, that's what, and the house of the Red Shield/others can go to hell.....

:lol::lol::stirpot:

 

[big2bird]

40 years has passed since Nixon declared the war on drugs. 1 trillion dollars later, it is unchanged. Mexico Cartels rule that country, and all the South American countries like Columbia nd Peru depend on it.
Regulating and producing it here would end the senseless violence there, and create jobs/taxes here.
I am afraid it's just a winless war, worse than Viet Nam.

LBJ's "War on Poverty" another loser. 15 trillion dolars later, there are the same percentage of poor as now (1964 vs. 2012).

You would think that we would learn from our failures.

Nope. One thing Gene is correct about. Once we form a new gov. program/division/department, it's hard to kill it.

Why in hell you all think I want a wholesale slaughter of Fed.gov departments for?? AND their cushy retirement plans?? WE have to save the nation, that town is STUPID out of control.....gets down to guns and pitchforks, so be IT, but it simply has to happen.....unless.....


WE the PEOPLE REPUDIATE the debt.....GRAB ALL the gold bullion/ingots on our shores, use it for backing new currency, change the name from buck to fuck, as in we not messing around anymore.....

WTF the rest of the world going to DO?? nothing, that's what, and the house of the Red Shield/others can go to hell.....

:lol::lol::stirpot:

So Isolationism is the answer now? I thought it was WWIII? Meanwhile, we fire half the Govt. and make them instantly poor?

 

[mrvette]

Not necessary to remain 'isolationist' but we have to stop supporting the rest of the socialist world, and by doing so, following them down the shit tube.....

WTF we owe them?? any interpretation of history I read, seems they owe US more by a factor of 10-1....or better......

I not going to some obvious regions of the world for comment....but you know WTF I thinking of, those regions lay south of the Equator.....except Australia/NZ......:stirpot:

 

[big2bird]

Not necessary to remain 'isolationist' but we have to stop supporting the rest of the socialist world, and by doing so, following them down the shit tube.....

WTF we owe them?? any interpretation of history I read, seems they owe US more by a factor of 10-1....or better......

I agree we have to live within our means.

 

[mrvette]

Not necessary to remain 'isolationist' but we have to stop supporting the rest of the socialist world, and by doing so, following them down the shit tube.....

WTF we owe them?? any interpretation of history I read, seems they owe US more by a factor of 10-1....or better......

I agree we have to live within our means.

I would say our .gov needs to be run like a business, and skip the EMOtionalism that runs most of poly-ticks....

it makes sense by the bux, or DIE, reality is reality.....

this is NOT GM.....and time for the .gov to admit fizzicks is a bitch and drop all those 'safety' requirements....saving what? ten grand/car, some such .....

:crap::hissyfit:

 

[big2bird]

Not necessary to remain 'isolationist' but we have to stop supporting the rest of the socialist world, and by doing so, following them down the shit tube.....

WTF we owe them?? any interpretation of history I read, seems they owe US more by a factor of 10-1....or better......

I agree we have to live within our means.

I would say our .gov needs to be run like a business, and skip the EMOtionalism that runs most of poly-ticks....

it makes sense by the bux, or DIE, reality is reality.....

this is NOT GM.....and time for the .gov to admit fizzicks is a bitch and drop all those 'safety' requirements....saving what? ten grand/car, some such .....

:crap::hissyfit:

It's already owned by business. I don't want it run "for profit."
I also have no desire to roll back advancements in safety. They go a tad bit faster than Model T's now.

 

[big2bird]

What was the thread topic agin? I forgot.:lol:

 

[mrvette]

Summfin about nobama.....

:lol:

 

[SmokinBBC]

Not necessary to remain 'isolationist' but we have to stop supporting the rest of the socialist world, and by doing so, following them down the shit tube.....

WTF we owe them?? any interpretation of history I read, seems they owe US more by a factor of 10-1....or better......

I agree we have to live within our means.

I would say our .gov needs to be run like a business, and skip the EMOtionalism that runs most of poly-ticks....

it makes sense by the bux, or DIE, reality is reality.....

this is NOT GM.....and time for the .gov to admit fizzicks is a bitch and drop all those 'safety' requirements....saving what? ten grand/car, some such .....

:crap::hissyfit:

It's already owned by business. I don't want it run "for profit."
I also have no desire to roll back advancements in safety. They go a tad bit faster than Model T's now.

For profit...that's a hoot. Why not? I would love for the post office to at least make a buck rather than losing 5.3billion.

In case you missed it, the current SS recipients will get less than they paid in....in my books that equates to losing money....

So just what do you want? We continue to run this country at a loss?

 

[SmokinBBC]

What was the thread topic agin? I forgot.:lol:

Summfin about nobama.....

:lol:

I forget....oh yeah....so is it true that Obama.........:lol:

 

[mrvette]

What was the thread topic agin? I forgot.:lol:

Summfin about nobama.....

:lol:

I forget....oh yeah....so is it true that Obama.........:lol:

YES!!!! he is guilty as charged.....:suicide::stirpot:

 

[big2bird]

For profit...that's a hoot. Why not? I would love for the post office to at least make a buck rather than losing 5.3billion.

In case you missed it, the current SS recipients will get less than they paid in....in my books that equates to losing money....

So just what do you want? We continue to run this country at a loss?

The post office is dying from the internet,and UPS/Fed Ex.
Sat delivery must end, and rates will climb.Eventually, it will most likely die.

SS is a two fold issue. the gov. keeps borrowing against it, and the Ponzi style scheme that feeds it is decaying due to baby boomers retireing.

Run the country ata loss? Of course not.

 

[SmokinBBC]

For profit...that's a hoot. Why not? I would love for the post office to at least make a buck rather than losing 5.3billion.

In case you missed it, the current SS recipients will get less than they paid in....in my books that equates to losing money....

So just what do you want? We continue to run this country at a loss?

The post office is dying from the internet,and UPS/Fed Ex.
Sat delivery must end, and rates will climb.Eventually, it will most likely die.

SS is a two fold issue. the gov. keeps borrowing against it, and the Ponzi style scheme that feeds it is decaying due to baby boomers retireing.

Run the country ata loss? Of course not.

I agree, but that is what our policies are leading to right now....instead of creating and PASSING a plan to reduce the loss, we get another albatross that we cannot afford....

Bird, you cannot have it both ways....so what do you suggest?

 

[big2bird]

For profit...that's a hoot. Why not? I would love for the post office to at least make a buck rather than losing 5.3billion.

In case you missed it, the current SS recipients will get less than they paid in....in my books that equates to losing money....

So just what do you want? We continue to run this country at a loss?

The post office is dying from the internet,and UPS/Fed Ex.
Sat delivery must end, and rates will climb.Eventually, it will most likely die.

SS is a two fold issue. the gov. keeps borrowing against it, and the Ponzi style scheme that feeds it is decaying due to baby boomers retireing.

Run the country ata loss? Of course not.

I agree, but that is what our policies are leading to right now....instead of creating and PASSING a plan to reduce the loss, we get another albatross that we cannot afford....

Bird, you cannot have it both ways....so what do you suggest?

I don't have all the answers. Just the hard questions, and a fair morale compass to guide me.