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You are a tough sell!

From the exact same site that you list:
Defense Spending = 18.03%
Intrest on Debt = 6.67%

http://nationalpriorities.org/en/
click on Total Spending Chart

thats FY2013 that is a proposed budget for the future. fy2013 starts in Oct 2012.

just for shits and grins click on the "where your 2011 taxes went"

military 27%, veterans benefits 4.4%, interest on debt. 14.5%

I think it makes more sense to look at what we paid for actual expenditures as opposed to future budgets

I'm not going to show information for every year. I showed 2010 (20%) and your own link provides information for 2013 (18%).

In 2011, defense was 20%. Go to the goverment accounting office for your information instead of websites that are selling advertising to biased media. You are on a fishing expedition to find your 40% defense spending figure. I'm sure if you look long enough, you will find information that supports that. However, it's just not true.
 
no fishing trip,using your numbers if you add veterans benefits and the prorata share of the interest on the debt to your numbers i will be satisfised showing that military spending is over 20%. personally i do think it is much higher but interpreting the numbers is certainly a game especially when we dont have all the facts or even know how they came up with them.
 
.mil at least keeps us free, but the REST of the .gov retirement packages makes .mil look PALE by comparison.....but like I say, up to me entire departments would be shut down cold, whatever laws they operate under to be repealed, and no retirements.....

:devil:
 
..but like I say, up to me entire departments would be shut down cold, whatever laws they operate under to be repealed, and no retirements.....

:devil:

I used to think you were right wing. Now I think your a wing nut. :rolleyes:
 
..but like I say, up to me entire departments would be shut down cold, whatever laws they operate under to be repealed, and no retirements.....

:devil:

I used to think you were right wing. Now I think your a wing nut. :rolleyes:

I lived in Wash DC for 53 years, and over that period of time, most all my friends, neighbors, and yes customers with me in their homes for one capacity or another, TV fixing in the 60's through home remodeling in the 80'+ and let me tell you, my observations about that entire town are correct and honest.....and backed up in various conversations through the decades with my friends.....if you think that work ethic, or I should say LACK of work ethic is worthy of your tax money....well GOD help you,

it is shocking how OVERPAID and underworked that town is.....everyone has a PHD in underwater basketweaving, and not enough common sense to drive a screw, much less pick a hammer for the job....I know, my old BIL was that way, sis did all the home repairs best she could, I"d work on their cars quite often when I had a chance, them being about 30 miles away on other side of town.....

:stirpot:
 
Gene the federal workers I know are hard working people, I am not sure what you are referring to but the federal workers are lean and mean these days, I am sure there are some numb nuts, but with each agency having Inspector generals and the changes the last 4 administrations have made on the federal work force things have changed dramatically. State and Local governments have way better wages and retirement packages then the feds.

this reminds me of the Tea Party people protesting about "keep your hands off my medicaid" people dont even realize any more what the government provides...like to fly safe? like FDIC insurance on your money? like currency? like nuclear power? federal highway funds?

peace out , bob
 
Gene, I understand, and believe you on some points. My comments are more directed at your firing whole departments, taking away their retirement (life savings), and the Genocide comments about an entire religion.
Just get back to a little more centered in your thinking. They tend to remind me a little more of Hitler, and it bugs me.
 
Who cares how hard working they are, if thier job is beyond the scope of what the federal government should be doing (as intended by the founders) they should be gone. Gene has some crazy ideas, but he is right several federal departments need shutting down. People shouldn't be robbed of thier pensions if they were promised them.

We need to end federal grants to the states and reduce federal taxes perportionally. The states should collect the money and pay for thier own needs.
 
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Gene, I understand, and believe you on some points. My comments are more directed at your firing whole departments, taking away their retirement (life savings), and the Genocide comments about an entire religion.
Just get back to a little more centered in your thinking. They tend to remind me a little more of Hitler, and it bugs me.

I agree with Gene the way we have fought the last last two wars in particular was too costly both in lives and money. I think however we would have been better off not entering the conflicts to start with. We should have gone into afganistan, got Osama and his followers and got out.
 
I agree with Gene the way we have fought the last last two wars in particular was too costly both in lives and money. I think however we would have been better off not entering the conflicts to start with. We should have gone into afganistan, got Osama and his followers and got out.

I think many folks agree with you on being involved in two win less wars, especially the wife's and parents that have lost sons and husbands..............but big business and defense contractors sure don't agree.

I bet they are now looking at Iran for there oil and Halliburton hoping they bomb the place really good so they get the contracts to rebuild the place. :sos:
 
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I agree with Gene the way we have fought the last last two wars in particular was too costly both in lives and money. I think however we would have been better off not entering the conflicts to start with. We should have gone into afganistan, got Osama and his followers and got out.

I think many folks agree with you on being involved in two win less wars, especially the wife's and parents that have lost sons and husbands..............but big business and defense contractors sure don't agree.

I bet they are now looking at Iran for there oil and Halliburton hoping they bomb the place really good so they get the contracts to rebuild the place. :sos:

That comment about Halli is a complete myth, it's like you stuck on some talking point from Al Gore yet, give it up already, he LOST, thank GOD....:harhar: anyone REALLY think we can get along with islam?? really?? seriously?? lets see about a dozen mass suicide bombings, they do it to themselves even, their book talks of nothing but world domination, just like Marx, same shit basically.....want your grandkids to drop on a rug 5X/day, like the way they treat their women?? think for a nanosecond you can build a church in most of those countries?? Saudi being the worst....

I believe with surgical strikes and some leaflets toss out of planes, we can break Iran in about a week, maybe less....couple days....but this country is just too damn PC about everything, too many damn liberals in the schools over the last few decades, that comes from the Dept of Ed at the Fed level, they set the standards.....hell the damn .gov can't even sequence traffic lights or use common sense in road building, seen that demonstrated here in this neighborhood....

Bob, nothing much has changed in the work ethic in Wash DC, certain agencies maybe ok, such as CIA, DIA, DOD, police/fire/EMT....but they are way in the minority in that town, and at any rate 120grand/year retirement on your tax money is a bit rich, don't you think??.....:skeptic:
 
...I believe with surgical strikes and some leaflets toss out of planes, we can break Iran in about a week, maybe less....couple days...

Dumbest thing I heard today.
Gene, seriously, stop believing and start learning, if you still can
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uriEGsIM[/ame]
 
...I believe with surgical strikes and some leaflets toss out of planes, we can break Iran in about a week, maybe less....couple days...

Dumbest thing I heard today.
Gene, seriously, stop believing and start learning, if you still can
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uriEGsIM[/ame]

Nothing in the video is news to me....atleast the first 5 mins. I couldn't stand listening to that host any longer. Only a fucking loser like that could get a job at PBS.
 
I wonder if a matter of principal, Gene would refuse/return his SS income checks? I wonder if he would refuse medicare/medicaid if in the hospital. These socialist programs could taint his reputation.:wink:
 
anyone REALLY think we can get along with islam?? really?? seriously?? lets see about a dozen mass suicide bombings, they do it to themselves even, their book talks of nothing but world domination, just like Marx, same shit basically.....want your grandkids to drop on a rug 5X/day, like the way they treat their women?? think for a nanosecond you can build a church in most of those countries?? Saudi being the worst....

There was an Austrian not long ago, that said the exact same thing about the Jews.
 
anyone REALLY think we can get along with islam?? really?? seriously?? lets see about a dozen mass suicide bombings, they do it to themselves even, their book talks of nothing but world domination, just like Marx, same shit basically.....want your grandkids to drop on a rug 5X/day, like the way they treat their women?? think for a nanosecond you can build a church in most of those countries?? Saudi being the worst....

There was an Austrian not long ago, that said the exact same thing about the Jews that Obama is sying about the wealthy. Class warfare is class warfare

I fixed it for you
 
anyone REALLY think we can get along with islam?? really?? seriously?? lets see about a dozen mass suicide bombings, they do it to themselves even, their book talks of nothing but world domination, just like Marx, same shit basically.....want your grandkids to drop on a rug 5X/day, like the way they treat their women?? think for a nanosecond you can build a church in most of those countries?? Saudi being the worst....

There was an Austrian not long ago, that said the exact same thing about the Jews that Obama is sying about the wealthy. Class warfare is class warfare

I fixed it for you

Obama wants to exterminate rich people? I did not read that anywhere.
 
...I believe with surgical strikes and some leaflets toss out of planes, we can break Iran in about a week, maybe less....couple days...

Dumbest thing I heard today.
Gene, seriously, stop believing and start learning, if you still can
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uriEGsIM[/ame]

Nothing in the video is news to me....atleast the first 5 mins. I couldn't stand listening to that host any longer. Only a fucking loser like that could get a job at PBS.

For someone that has lived in a country for 27 years where the culture is different from the west. I have learned that people are just interested in making a living and family values. I find this video quite good at portraying people as people. The history of the CIA and America in the world is not good. If only governments and religions step aside the world would be a better place for ALL.
 
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