Does that say "we have HUNGRY mouths to feed"? Looks like somebodys been doin' some eatin'
Wall Street Protests
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turtlevette
The Turdle
is that dude in the red shirt big2bird
SmokinBBC
Well-known member
give me something for free mother fuckers!!!!!
Her sign says we have hungry mouths to feed......looks to me like if she made room at the dinner table, there would be plenty to eat for 2 families.
big_G
Blown Member
Well said, DeeVeeEight.
JPhil
Huh?
Yes, very well said DV8, and I agree with you completely.
Keep in mind we can pick on any particular details we choose to focus on to disparage any group or idea we wish. The media will only publish such snippets as will immediately grab attention and thus promote sales of their wares. A photo, a caption, a single sentence picked from among many in the "news" we hear from whichever source of propaganda we prefer (and yes, I have mine) present but one aspect of a larger idea. Remember how our parents generation reacted to rock&roll and long hair? It was the beginning of the ruination, the downfall, of all they had worked & sacrificed for: the end of civilization is upon us.
And this current young generation is not the same as we. Change happens. It's called evolution of the species.
That is as it should be.
I personally hate piercings &dreadlocks & tattoos & 'BFD' & 'LOL' & 'multitasking' & etc. etc. etc. (ha ha ha: "etc." vs. "LOL"--who the f**k am I to talk?)
But the idea behind the OWS protests you all should support.
One can focus on a photo of a fat black welfare queen (we assume: because it fits our comfortingly familier prejudices) as an excuse to dismiss this idea completely ---just as one can focus on a picture of a fat white gun-laden redneck (we assume: because it fits our comfortingly familierprejudices) to dismiss the Tea Party as nothing more than narrow-minded fanatics. Those images are only microscopic snippets of a much larger idea. If one steps back, you'll see that both Tea Partiers & OWS protesters are really after the same thing---Get the big money out from running, ruling, & ruining our lives soley for their own immediate gain. To stop them from continuing to turn us all back into serfs serving only their purpose. The 'big money' influence is not just big corporate elite. It is every bit as corrupting in the government. The conflict between official "parties" is that each side only sees--no, only 'promotes'-- that corruption from their point of veiw, for use toward their own gain.
(He ain't Glen Beck, but if you call yourself 'intelligent' & 'thoughtful' then you should also listen to Paul Krugman and weigh his ideas equally too. )
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/panic-of-the-plutocrats.html?_r=1&emc=eta1
(Yeah yeah yeah I know what responses so many of you will give me, we all do. Quoted by rote. Just as mine are by now. Save your breath, OK?)
Maybe we should all get together, the redneck 'conservatives' & the hippy 'liberals' to form the Herbal Tea Party to work toward the common goal:
http://www.getmoneyout.com/
I'm really not the liberal commie socialist pinko so many of you think I am. Many of my veiws are very conservative. It is only in the interest of presenting both sides of a question that I say what I do. To try to understand all veiwpoints, all concerns, before passing judgement.
I refrained from touching this thread for as long as I could stand.
Here, look at this. Explore it a bit. Don't just look at the kneejerk 'headlines' and make a quick decision, look deeper. Yes, OWS is the story-de-jour. But look back farther, read some articles. You will find they are after the same thing we all are---maybe from a different direction than yours, but still, the same end.
http://www.adbusters.org/
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denpo
Carburated Nihilist
No one's holding a gun to anyone's head. Just stop giving it to them.
How many of the people that aren't in the "1%" would be just as upset as they are now, if they were instead in the 1%?
Mike
The figures on that chart are a complete fabrication. Go to the cbo.gov and look it up.
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JPhil
Huh?
You gonna stop putting gas in your truck & eating & watching TV & taking your blood pressure meds & heating your house & paying for your other needs &/or wants?
If you are a "1%er" you damn sure ain't upset at the way things are. You love it and just laugh and laugh at the 'honest' suckers down below who delude themselves that they may someday become a 1%er. One only becomes a 1%er by being a psychopath. There's a lot of wannabes but very very few who can prospect long, hard & true enough to join the Club. And if you & me were driven that hard for such a singular purpose, we'd already be there instead of here.
Are you serious? Psychopaths? I know a guy who just liquidated his family business because he hasen't made any money for years and it was worth more in assets than income. This is a 50 year old company in the maufacturing business that has stedily lost work to the Chinese. I'll bet on a good year he didn't bring home more that 50K. He kept the business going because he had employees that worked there for years.
This "psychopath" sold the assets for $1.2 mil and is now a 1% (for this year). Do you think this is unusual? Look up the percentage of the 1% that are in the 1% catagory year after year. The vast majority are 1%'rs for 1 year.
By the way, he is looking for a job. The 1.2 mil is gone in TAXES and personal DEBT.
JPhil
Huh?
No, of course he's not a psychopath---he is not of the 1%ers who are the problem! He too is victim of them.
Can't any of you grasp the concept of where the problem lies?
Can't any of you grasp the concept of where the problem lies?
He IS one of the 1%'rs. The definition of 1% is the top 1% of income. If the OWS people had their way, he would have been completely ruined.
Can't you grasp that concept? I don't see the protesters making exemptions to the "special cases" of earners who fall into the one percent. What I do see is the demand that these 1% give them more of their money (without exception)!
And, before you ask, I don't think things are "fair" in government. But I don't agree that lies (like the poster of the income gap or the misrepresentation of everyone at the top 1% as psychopaths) will help with anything. I don't think that many things are fair in life but I won't lie to make my point.
The thing I don't get is why the OWS people take their complaint where it belongs, Washington!
Can't you grasp that concept? I don't see the protesters making exemptions to the "special cases" of earners who fall into the one percent. What I do see is the demand that these 1% give them more of their money (without exception)!
And, before you ask, I don't think things are "fair" in government. But I don't agree that lies (like the poster of the income gap or the misrepresentation of everyone at the top 1% as psychopaths) will help with anything. I don't think that many things are fair in life but I won't lie to make my point.
The thing I don't get is why the OWS people take their complaint where it belongs, Washington!
mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
Sure, the BIG international bankers....Red Shield, Rockefeller, Mellon, DuPont, Ford, Pew, Colgate, Penny, and many others....
the Bilderburg groups.....led by the oldest international banking house of all time....Rothschild....
68L71
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So what is the answer, more government control as the OWS people want. I say no, that is the problem. A large powerful government is the most suseptible to corruption. Don't look to other to look out for you, look out for yourself.
I think the only man speaking the truth is Ron Paul.
I think the only man speaking the truth is Ron Paul.
mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
Yes, but the PROGRESSIVE led sheeple will be hating him by time the MSM spins it all around, and honestly I disagree with him on some point myself....
mainly about wiping out islam from face of the earth...but I digress....
so I like CAIN and want Herman to raise it ....he has more common sense and a leadership quality seriously lacking with any other in a LONG time....
and I think CAIN has more chance to pull it off than Reagan....
:crutches:
turtlevette
The Turdle
I don't feel sorry for your friend at all. For those 50 years he was able to deduct everything related to his business. Cars, building depreciation, equipment depreciation, a portion of his house, vacations, business jet, and on and on and on. But we're always worried about small business. He sold his business and was taxed on only the gain at a long term capital gains rate which is lower than what the average joe pays. You know a small business owner can go out and buy a hummer and deduct the whole goddamn thing in one shot. You don't even have to be that smart to pay absolutely no taxes at all. The rich don't want to pay a "death" tax either. Then who the hell is going to pay. Average m'fers like all the guys hanging out here taking it up the ass.
mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
BULLSHIT LITTLE EVA, I never got away with anything even CLOSE, buying a full time USED work truck/van.....I had to depreciate it.....you saying my accountant was RONG? CPA and all?? I doubt it, as it was standard practice of the times.....today, I can't say, not been all that active....
IF ANYONE has a ounce of common sense they pay NO taxes upon death because they have done ONE of TWO things....not triggered the estate limits before FEDERAL estate taxes are due....OR.....they established trusts and holding companies they control through family generations
like Rockefellers, etc.....smaller scale, similar results...
BUT the top 1% still pay about 40% or so of the INCOME tax totals.....
then it goes to the rest of us hangers on, and the bottom 50% pay NOTHING in INCOME taxes....but IF they work on the table...they get to pay 15% to SS.....1/2 on the stub, 1/2 to the employer as 'his' contribution....
either way a deduction to the employer.....so the manipulation of the law to show that bullshit on the pay stubs is just a LIE....like to meet the crook coming up with that one, and introduce him to Mr. Benelli....
:crutches:
turtlevette
The Turdle
I would say replace psychopath with crook and i'd agree. Did you see the deal on 60 minutes or whatever where Paul Allen talks about dumpster diving with Bill Gates looking for thrown out code? Not only is he not ashamed of it, he looked back fondly on those activities. How can you get any more unethical than that.
Gates out crooked Jobs who stole his ideas from Zerox and on and on and on.
Show me a squeeky clean honest ethical person who is a multi billionaire.
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mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
the story goes that Xerox sold the mouse for a song to Jobs.....and IBM thought nothing of the 'intelligent terminal' not seeing the growth of chips and shit....so Gates bought the DOS 1.0 from the writer for 100 grand??
OF his father's money.....fat chance MY father ever do that for me, even though he did explore a chance in the early 70's during my first marriage...and sure enough my Dad was correct.....
GATES made it off the back of the FED.GOV and little other.....
and how I wish the second divorce had not happened and we bought about 50 grand of MSFT in '88 instead of pissing it all away on uber emotional bullshit she generated.....kept our noses to the stone and stayed cool....
:crutches:
I take it you are not an accountant.
