Rookie's First Restoration Attempt...

are the wheels you have cast or forged? if they're forged (even cast if you're willing to run an inner tube) you can have the wheels widened - last time I check it was a whole lot less that 2k to have them widened (like 200 a wheel)
 
It doesn't need that much more Byron said. He said a 1/4" spacer and it will look just right.
 
It doesn't need that much more Byron said. He said a 1/4" spacer and it will look just right.
from experience I can say finding any spacer of less than 1" is tough. Most are those cheap, dangerous cast pieces that fit any car. The problem you'll run into is stud length - with stock wheels, it's not so bad to offset out; but once you start moving more than 1/4" plus the new thickness of your wheels (normally 3/8" to 1/2") you're going to get into dangerously low thread engagement. I'm running ARP long studs (for a Caprice) to get the length I need; and I had machined a very tight fitting, hub centric spacer on my front wheels. The rears were fine in my case, but to swap the studs to the better studs required pulling the entire trailing arm apart.
 
STING, listen UP on this shit.....do NOT buy ANY off the shelf cast wheel spacer.....NO FRIGGIN WAY man....I seen them shatter and so grind the wheels off .....

IF you go the spacer route, you need machined from GOOD aluminum/steel and that means you tight on the studs, and center....machine shop tolerance, no bullshit once size fits all crap....

I have machined Wheel Adapters on my '72 here, to make up the offsets to fit C4 wheels to my '72.....ordered up from VBP years ago....

and they are solid as steel....so watch it on that crap, easy way to lose your ass....:thumbs::smash:
 
Jeremy, I have the set of wheel adapter MYBAD gave me.
I decided I won't use them.
If you want, they're yours. I have to dig them out, I think they were 1".
They are true high quality adapter, but make of steel.
 
It doesn't need that much more Byron said. He said a 1/4" spacer and it will look just right.
from experience I can say finding any spacer of less than 1" is tough. Most are those cheap, dangerous cast pieces that fit any car. The problem you'll run into is stud length - with stock wheels, it's not so bad to offset out; but once you start moving more than 1/4" plus the new thickness of your wheels (normally 3/8" to 1/2") you're going to get into dangerously low thread engagement. I'm running ARP long studs (for a Caprice) to get the length I need; and I had machined a very tight fitting, hub centric spacer on my front wheels. The rears were fine in my case, but to swap the studs to the better studs required pulling the entire trailing arm apart.

I agree. I would have to see how much stud length would be left over before attempting this.
 
STING, listen UP on this shit.....do NOT buy ANY off the shelf cast wheel spacer.....NO FRIGGIN WAY man....I seen them shatter and so grind the wheels off .....

IF you go the spacer route, you need machined from GOOD aluminum/steel and that means you tight on the studs, and center....machine shop tolerance, no bullshit once size fits all crap....

I have machined Wheel Adapters on my '72 here, to make up the offsets to fit C4 wheels to my '72.....ordered up from VBP years ago....

and they are solid as steel....so watch it on that crap, easy way to lose your ass....:thumbs::smash:

I have a guy who would laser cut them for me to my specs. Thank you!
 
Jeremy, I have the set of wheel adapter MYBAD gave me.
I decided I won't use them.
If you want, they're yours. I have to dig them out, I think they were 1".
They are true high quality adapter, but make of steel.

I'll definitely take you up on that Dennis. Thank you!
 
Unfortunately you can't weld pot metal. The only way to get rid of the holes was to make a plate out of sheet metal and bond it to the top of the gas lid. Tomorrow I will square up the edges to the lid and it will be done.

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Jeremy, I have the set of wheel adapter MYBAD gave me.
I decided I won't use them.
If you want, they're yours. I have to dig them out, I think they were 1".
They are true high quality adapter, but make of steel.

I'll definitely take you up on that Dennis. Thank you!

these are steel adapters , 1" thick (25mm), made by Powertech.... even got the German TUV cert for street use..... this is the good stuff, you'll be happy with these ...
...and your Vette will look better :D
 
Someone over on another forum asked me about primers. I thought this info would be good for this forum as well.

The problem with paint products is the solvent within them. Solvents are used in every paint manufactured for one specific reason - to make it sprayable. Every product has solvent in it, straight out of the can. Once the product is sprayed and applied to a panel, it starts to cure. The solvents which are in the product are evaporated during the curing process, which results in the product shrinking, and tightening up. Thus, if you use too coarse of a paper (this fact is important, as this will only happen with too coarse of a paper), apply urethane primer, let it sit a day, prep it, paint it in 2 days...it looks great. However, once the primer fully cures, it evaporates all of its solvents through the paint applied on top of it...thus...you get shrinkage, and sand scratch swelling showing on the finished panel. If however you apply the urethane primer to a panel with 180 grit and finer, you can use the above method without sandscratch swelling, and no ill affects to the paint surface once fully cured.

Most people have problems with sinkage due to using too coarse of a paper before urethane primer. If you let it fully cure before prep, yeah, you can get away with it without sinkage later on. But this is the real world. People need their vehicles and projects pronto.

Another key note is that you can only get your bodywork so straight...you need primer to finish the panel to make it straight. You can block filler all day long, for weeks at a time - you will never get it perfect. Here is where you make your decision on which primer to use first.

Slick sand is polyester based. It has minimal solvents within the product, which ultimately results in almost zero shrinkage once sprayed, if you don't reduce it. However, you aren't supposed to paint on top of slick sand. It is a sprayable body filler. If you have a lot of bodywork going on on panel, or it is a show car, then this is the primer you should use first. Urethane primer on the other hand has a lot of solvent in it, but you can paint on top of it. For this reason you should always use slick sand on fiberglass panels to seal them up.

Guys will spray 15 coats of k36 primer and block all of that out...that's a lot of solvent on a panel. If you spray slick sand unreduced, With very little fan (it takes a lot of passes), you eliminate a ton of solvent on the panel. Slick sand won't shrink if you do it this way. It goes on very thick. You apply a maximum of 3 coats at a time, any more than that and you are risking the product not fully curing through. It is a sprayable body filler. You block it out with 180 grit, and if you find any low spots, you decide whether to use a 2 part body putty to fill it (which is designed to go on top of primers), or spray more coats of slick sand. Once you have your panels straight, the next step is urethane primer.

You apply 3 coats of urethane primer next. Your panel is now super straight, and the urethane primer is going to finish any small areas which weren't perfect in the slick sand.

Polyester primer (slick sand) is an amazing product when used properly. It eliminates endless amounts of times spraying coat after coat of urethane primer. It does all of this without the shrinkage. It also blocks better than urethane primer.

If you leave activated unreduced slick sand in a mixing cup overnight, it hardens into a hockey puck and is fully cured by the next morning. If you leave activated urethane primer in a mixing cup overnight, it hardens into a soft cookie, and you can still smell the solvent inside that cookie.

Sometimes panels just need urethane primer (even on our show cars, sometimes a panel is straight enough for urethane primer), and this is where experience comes into play. I've been taught very well by my boss Byron. I ask a lot of stupid questions, but if I didn't ask them, I wouldn't know any of this. If you guys need any help, I'd be more than happy to answer your questions.
 
Jeremy, I have the set of wheel adapter MYBAD gave me.
I decided I won't use them.
If you want, they're yours. I have to dig them out, I think they were 1".
They are true high quality adapter, but make of steel.

I'll definitely take you up on that Dennis. Thank you!

these are steel adapters , 1" thick (25mm), made by Powertech.... even got the German TUV cert for street use..... this is the good stuff, you'll be happy with these ...
...and your Vette will look better :D

I'm going to try them out Karsten!
 
Congratulations on the award!!

Jeremy I must have missed this thead over the years so I just got caught up with it. Let me say great work and great effort. You have done a great job on the work, but also a great job documenting the work. Its refreshing to see that a young person can write! Way too many people coming into the work world with horrible communication skills. I can't wait to see it painted, my 77 was the darkest blue color imaginable and we had the car for a year or two before we realized that it wasnt black. Keep up the good work, bob
 
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