mfain
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After reading Grumpy's article, I looked and could not find a place to put a 20"X50" radiator to have 2 square inches per cubic inch for cooling. LOL
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SuperBuickGuy
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I didn't get how to read that because wouldn't multi-core radiators reduce that size requirement?
bobs77vet
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I have a base c5 front and rear sway bar and I think the drag links and mounting stuff, you can have them for mock up purposes if you want them. I doubt they are thick enough for any purpose other then mock up. I bet shippings would be $45
SuperBuickGuy
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I have base stuff - actually came here to post what they are for posterity. Front is 1.06 inches (26 mm), rear .961 (24 mm)
For the front I have from 1 1/4, 1 3/8, 1 1/2 (very expensive, very cool), for the rear, 38 mm but 3 adjustment points (38mm is within .05 inches of 1 1/2 inches)
The problem, as I see it, is that my car is substantially lighter then a Camaro....
here are the corner weights for the Camaro
digging up my scaling
so the million dollar question, (okay up to $2,000 question)... do I match front/rear sway bars? those front bars are all hollow....
For the front I have from 1 1/4, 1 3/8, 1 1/2 (very expensive, very cool), for the rear, 38 mm but 3 adjustment points (38mm is within .05 inches of 1 1/2 inches)
The problem, as I see it, is that my car is substantially lighter then a Camaro....
here are the corner weights for the Camaro
digging up my scaling
so the million dollar question, (okay up to $2,000 question)... do I match front/rear sway bars? those front bars are all hollow....
SuperBuickGuy
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hotchkis 1 3/16 front, UMI 1 1/4 rear
Talked to someone at a company other then hotchkis, who used to work for hotchkis - and we hashed out a solution. I love that he recommended his old employer but as he pointed out, they didn't have a solution.
Also, he suggested a smaller, rear tire... sacrilege, I know, but I think he's right... I'd order the new tires but I need to get the front dialed in (with the new bushings and locks) because I *might* be able to run a 295 front tire. Not a 315 like everyone else, but a lot closer then the 275 I have now
In other new, I'm regearing my other rear differential to 3.73 in hopes that it will keep my clutch alive (also a better limited slip)
Talked to someone at a company other then hotchkis, who used to work for hotchkis - and we hashed out a solution. I love that he recommended his old employer but as he pointed out, they didn't have a solution.
Also, he suggested a smaller, rear tire... sacrilege, I know, but I think he's right... I'd order the new tires but I need to get the front dialed in (with the new bushings and locks) because I *might* be able to run a 295 front tire. Not a 315 like everyone else, but a lot closer then the 275 I have now
In other new, I'm regearing my other rear differential to 3.73 in hopes that it will keep my clutch alive (also a better limited slip)
bobs77vet
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edit: i must have missed your last post with the solution, i like it.
i dont know how this applies to custom cars like yours, but the C5 later years Z06 sway bars were Front 30mm 1.18", Rear 23,6mm .929",
I have these on my 2004 C5 and I cant make the car lean on the public roads, not sure about on a track. I have the z06 shocks but base springs for ride comfort.
what strikes me is that in most setups the rear sway bar size always seems to be smaller then the front sway bars. could you use the c6 z06 as bench mark for sizing purposes?
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i dont know how this applies to custom cars like yours, but the C5 later years Z06 sway bars were Front 30mm 1.18", Rear 23,6mm .929",
I have these on my 2004 C5 and I cant make the car lean on the public roads, not sure about on a track. I have the z06 shocks but base springs for ride comfort.
what strikes me is that in most setups the rear sway bar size always seems to be smaller then the front sway bars. could you use the c6 z06 as bench mark for sizing purposes?
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SuperBuickGuy
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I suspect this was the image you were trying to attach?
with Hotchkis bar
with Hotchkis bar
SuperBuickGuy
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and the charts with spring rates
It's true that I don't have stock spring mounts - but the rates should be similar
It's true that I don't have stock spring mounts - but the rates should be similar
SuperBuickGuy
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something I didn't know, the 2010-2011 Camaro SS had a different sway bar mounting point. I'll attach a link to a thread but the relevant pictures are here:
stock mounting, old style
1LE "new" style
I'm going to stick with the old because I have a UMI sway bar coming - but also because I think that opens up a can of worms with how it's put together now....
and the thread link: https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463979
stock mounting, old style
1LE "new" style
I'm going to stick with the old because I have a UMI sway bar coming - but also because I think that opens up a can of worms with how it's put together now....
and the thread link: https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463979
SuperBuickGuy
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Brown Santa arrived today
18x10, 18x12.5
poor fgz, they're still too big for him.
forged, light weight
Apex gave me a deal on them, basically I paid the cast price for these (actually, a little less)... thanks Apex
18x10, 18x12.5
poor fgz, they're still too big for him.
forged, light weight
Apex gave me a deal on them, basically I paid the cast price for these (actually, a little less)... thanks Apex
bobs77vet
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nice, I fully support Christmas in August,
those charts looked good on my screen but turned to crap when I hit "enter", i think it was different charts but same basically same info
those charts looked good on my screen but turned to crap when I hit "enter", i think it was different charts but same basically same info
SuperBuickGuy
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potato camera for the blur again
stock clearance
new wheel clearance
rear stock
rear new
I know this sounds really dumb but I'm going to cut the front fenders to put larger tires on it. right now, it's about 1/2" outside the fender on the stock side and 1" on the new side. With the changes I'm going to make the control arms, I'll have about 1/2 of that solved but I want 315 front tires, not 275. Bright side is I'll 'fix' the paint flaws the painter did when I do this and resolve a couple other paint issues... thankfully it's black and really easy to match
stock clearance
new wheel clearance
rear stock
rear new
I know this sounds really dumb but I'm going to cut the front fenders to put larger tires on it. right now, it's about 1/2" outside the fender on the stock side and 1" on the new side. With the changes I'm going to make the control arms, I'll have about 1/2 of that solved but I want 315 front tires, not 275. Bright side is I'll 'fix' the paint flaws the painter did when I do this and resolve a couple other paint issues... thankfully it's black and really easy to match
bobs77vet
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they match up nicely on the back, and bigger fender flares always look cool!!!!!!!
SuperBuickGuy
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what's fun is it kind of fixes that front tire gap... because I can move in the same direction the flare is already going - makes it a lot easier to finish.
SuperBuickGuy
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brief interlude
this is my 'body shop' probably electrical too
the first victim
and the other one
and like this... still have no idea what I'm going to power it with, however, thinking it needs a full tube frame
this is my 'body shop' probably electrical too
the first victim
and the other one
and like this... still have no idea what I'm going to power it with, however, thinking it needs a full tube frame
bobs77vet
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I am jonesing for the buick sedanette.....
SuperBuickGuy
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I was going to move it inside last night but ran out of time...
SuperBuickGuy
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Sooooo, one of those 'fixits' from Optima was the clutch seemed to be starting to slip - so part of the fix is going to be changing rear gears to 3.73 from the 3.45 that it is now. While I'm at it, it's time to put the cooler on it, but never ever done one. what do I need to know about rear diff cooling?
phantomjock
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I have drilled and setup my rear diff, bought the pump and cooler - but not quite to the install. Here is Grumpy from my bookmarks Go-To list:
And a pic from my diff prep:
Here is the "diagram" I laid out for this part:
Cut off on left - Filter and I moved the return higher on the case cover.
NOTE - It's been near-on 10 years! I'd better get crackin'!
Cheers - Jim
rear differential cooler
now adding a rear differential cooler on a street car or even a drag race cars just some added expense and adding something else to go wrong in my opinion, but on a road racing car,or circle track car, use of both a rear differential cooler, with a fluid pump and heat exchange radiator and use...
garage.grumpysperformance.com
Here is the "diagram" I laid out for this part:
Cut off on left - Filter and I moved the return higher on the case cover.
NOTE - It's been near-on 10 years! I'd better get crackin'!
Cheers - Jim
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mfain
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Here is what I did. The first photo shows a circle where DSE (GearFX) had me drill an tap for the lower drain line. It is on the bottom of the case just behind the pinion bearing. The pump is a Setrab gear driven pump. There is a Setrab filter in front of it. All lines are -8. The cooler is a Derale with integral fans. Air is ducted to the cooler from scoops just in front of the rear tires. Hope this helps.
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