C3/4/5 frankenstein frame

[SuperBuickGuy]

I tell people to hold their whines, never works... how do you do it? is this one of those things that when I grow up and become a professional that it will happen? :beer:

 

[vette427sbc]

Rough first layer of glass for the wheel tub, and a comparison to the stock drivers side.





Planning on making some kind of tube to make the Astrovents drain through the top of the new tubs. I also put the rear section of the cage on the chassis for storage. Standing next to it makes me forget how low this car was :bounce:

I tell people to hold their whines, never works... how do you do it? is this one of those things that when I grow up and become a professional that it will happen? :beer:

All it does is relieve me from feeling bad when the complaints come at me :rain:

 

[bobs77vet]

that is looking good....I tell my kids "don't complaint to me about me"

 

[vette427sbc]

Firewall primed and painted






The firewall is the same color as the frame... The body is just about ready to drop on the frame... hopefully sometime this coming week

 

[mfain]

Looking really good!!!!

 

[69427]

Firewall primed and painted
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The firewall is the same color as the frame... The body is just about ready to drop on the frame... hopefully sometime this coming week

Progress is looking good. :thumbs:

I don't mean to add additional work or annoyance, but would you be able to get a weight on the stock wiper motor if you have a slow moment? Thanks.

 

[vette427sbc]

Thank you both!

Progress is looking good. :thumbs:

I don't mean to add additional work or annoyance, but would you be able to get a weight on the stock wiper motor if you have a slow moment? Thanks.

No problem! I can tell you already that it's too heavy :rofl:

 

[Richard454]

Coming along nicely...

I saw you were looking at an electric pump on another forum-

repost-

A while back I had looked at going with an electric pump- as I don't have any room left on the front of my engine...see below all the info I was able to find.

I ended up getting a Nissan Cube Electric Assist motor and using a Flaming River Manual R&P.

Reading over it-this is the only problem I found with it-



" I have noticed with the 'A' Class that there is a delay of a few seconds before the power steering is active"



A1684660401 operates at 73 bar, or about 1050 psi, according to the label on one I found. That's spot on! I've crossed referenced the Mercedes pump part #'s and they are interchangeable so they must all be pretty much the same.


Corvette pump was designed to limit pump pressure to around 1000 psi.

Corvette pump puts out a controlled flow of around 2.9 gallons per minute




Part numbers
M-B class A Body 168


A1684660601

LH9101000


This guy has lots of info on the steering system of the A class

http://www.aclassinfo.co.uk/mypage.49.htm









69427-

I've weighted a 71 and 73 wiper motor- a little over 5lbs.

I'm running a newer positive switched motor- Olds- Buick - Pontiac which is also used in the Corvette the exact same motor but costs twice as much!!!

It weighs in 20% less ....at 4lbs

The BOP have a cover that doesn't incorporate a delay- really easy to control with it's two speed motor and no shunt.

original part number is 22072788 then superseded with 88961292

Mounts in stock location with 2 out of three holes lining up

 

[vette427sbc]

Excellent info, Richard! The A-class pump was delivered a few days ago... I know it has a delay turning on, but Im hoping there wont be a notable delay for pressure request after its already been on. A friend of mine (DblTrbl on the other vette forums) is an electronics wizard and Ive already mentioned to him about doing some mods to this thing if I find that it has any short comings.

 

[69427]

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69427-

I've weighted a 71 and 73 wiper motor- a little over 5lbs. Thank you.

I'm running a newer positive switched motor- Olds- Buick - Pontiac which is also used in the Corvette the exact same motor but costs twice as much!!!

It weighs in 20% less ....at 4lbs That's directionally desirable.

The BOP have a cover that doesn't incorporate a delay- really easy to control with it's two speed motor and no shunt. Please pardon my ignorance. What shunt item/function is that?

original part number is 22072788 then superseded with 88961292

Mounts in stock location with 2 out of three holes lining up

Can you tell me which BOP models/platforms this wiper motor was used in? I'm planning on pulling the distributor and intake this winter, so this would be a decent time to take advantage of the extra working space to swap out the motor.

Your help here is sincerely appreciated. :thumbs:

 

[Richard454]

Can you tell me which BOP models/platforms this wiper motor was used in? I'm planning on pulling the distributor and intake this winter, so this would be a decent time to take advantage of the extra working space to swap out the motor.

Your help here is sincerely appreciated. :thumbs:

Here look at this eBay listing- has 23 pages of cars that this motor is in!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windshield...h=item33dda645dc:g:hugAAOSwTORblUbT:rk:2:pf:0


The plastic "module" will be different- as some have a delay and others don't. But easily swapable with three screws.

I'm running the wiper base motor but a module/and controls for a mid 90's Caddy with delay/intermittent set up.

But they all use the 6 pin delphi connector

The shunt- or resistor is the 'old' way they controlled the motor speed.

You can see in the pic- motor has three wires- purple-yellow-black. Ground and a wire for each speed- much better- efficient design.

Connector 6 pin A-B-C-D-E-F

High- +12 A-B-F
Low +12 B-C-F
Off +12 C-F (so it will park)

My set-up

Wiper control in the steering column -replacing ignition switch- wiper chrome trim off a 69 Mustang!

Excellent info, Richard! The A-class pump was delivered a few days ago... I know it has a delay turning on, but Im hoping there wont be a notable delay for pressure request after its already been on. A friend of mine (DblTrbl on the other vette forums) is an electronics wizard and Ive already mentioned to him about doing some mods to this thing if I find that it has any short comings.

I know who you are talking about....like his build and he's not afraid to think outside the NCRS manual!!!


Really straight forward wiring-

Power- ground and a ignition wire (blue in pic) that MUST be above 12V- otherwise it "sees" an alternator failure and and shuts down the pump.

 

[69427]

Richard, thanks much for the information. I'll check my favorite junkyard this next week if the weather permits.

 

[vette427sbc]

A major milestone tonight! Looking through my photos, it shows I took the body off on November 30th 2014!! Thankfully I didn't hit 4 whole years :3rd:








I've got a few places to trim for 100% fitment but otherwise all went fairly smooth! My goal is to have a car that moves under its own power by New Year's Day... back to work!

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

looking good. I could have my car moving under its own power by new years, stopping, though, would be an issue

 

[BBShark]

I wish I could say my car was taken apart for only 4 years. I'm thinking more like 10. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. I think I will be able to put the body on the frame next spring.

 

[69427]

Looking good, Chris. :thumbs:

 

[SRountree]

Wow, very nice!!!

 

[vette427sbc]

looking good. I could have my car moving under its own power by new years, stopping, though, would be an issue

I know Ill get hung up on something so I left the goal pretty vague :crylol:

I wish I could say my car was taken apart for only 4 years. I'm thinking more like 10. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. I think I will be able to put the body on the frame next spring.

Im surrounded by fast/fun classic cars and sports cars every day at work. Its a tease not having my own for 4 years! 10 years though?! That makes me feel a bit better about mine! :drink:

Looking good, Chris. :thumbs:

Wow, very nice!!!

Thank you!

Can you guys see all 4 pictures? photobucket seems to selectively let me post pictures

 

[BBShark]

I can see all 4 pictures. You should host them here. Then you are not relying on (the very unreliable) Photobucket.

 

[vette427sbc]

I can see all 4 pictures. You should host them here. Then you are not relying on (the very unreliable) Photobucket.

I would love to, but I take all my pictures with my phone, and if I upload from my phone the VM hosting it says the photos are too large. Unfortunately the photobucket is the simplest way for me right now...